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David Brooks on his first encounter with Obama. In his own words: “I remember distinctly an image of–we were sitting on his couches, and I was looking at his pant leg and his perfectly creased pant,” Brooks says, “and I’m thinking, a) he’s going to be president and b) he’ll be a very good...

I actually looked it up not to long ago. It has at least a couple different meanings. :D https://www.quora.com/Where-does-the-phrase-go-pound-sand-come-from

Believe what you may. Pound sand if you want to.

A cargo van. Let's just say a little more than you.

Said the Monday morning QB sprinter driver with no law enforcement experience.

So how many seconds would it take for you to determine that the weapon he was pulling out if his waistband was a fake and if it was real and he intended on shooting you, how many times would you get shot? Just a rough estimate will do.

I'm so hurt by that.:rolleyes:

Thanks for the link.

And someone who is 5'7" and 195 pounds couldn't actually be a twenty year old? And a toy gun with the distinguishing toy safety feature removed would take how long to determine after you found out it was instead real and the person decided to shoot you?

Again, a juvenile can be an individual up to the age of 18. Saying the person is probably a juvinile isn't the same as saying the person is a 12 year old. Yes, a 12 year old is a juvenile, but so is a violent, real gun packing seventeen year old. The officers didn't know what type of juvenile...

Apparently Loehmann, from his passenger seat, opened up his car door with his windows up and yelled to show his hands. How is that a lie? He also exited the vehicle immediately afterward. How long should an officer wait to defend themselves when the information given to them indicated the threat...

Turtle wrote: The dispatcher, Beth Mandl, resigned from the police force in July after never having shown up for work again since the shooting. She was fired from her dispatching job at the Case Western Reserve Police Force, for failing to adequately and timely relay pertinent information to...

You forgot to mention that the 911 caller said 'I don't know if it's real or not.' So that too would fall under 'relay all information included in an incident'. So in the same call, the caller says it's probably fake, but he doesn't know either way. The caller also said this : 'The guy keeps...

Regarding the dispatcher: She didn't receive the initial 911 call. Someone from the call center conveyed the information to her. It's unclear if all the information was given to her. It is true she was terminated from her first dispatching job around the same time as the gun charge for bringing...

Regarding the lack of first aid given to Rice by the two officers: Rice apparently wasn't unconscious and was still breathing. No need to perform CPR at that point. He had a gaping abdominal wound. Certainly you would want the officers to do some kind of first aid on the wound, but from the...

Yes, that's a good point about the information given to the dispatcher. He or she apparently didn't convey every word and opinion of the 911 caller to the officers. For one, the caller said the gun is probably a fake. How does he know this? Another was that he was probably a juvenile. Again...

Voluntary Manslaughter Voluntary manslaughter is the taking of another life with the intent to kill or cause serious physical injury. This type of manslaughter is very similar to murder. However, the circumstances of the killing may make it a lesser crime than murder. Two common circumstances...

A miscommunication between police dispatch and the officers about the possible 'fake gun' that he had. The officers came upon the person who was reaching in his waist band for his real looking toy gun. In that instance, how is it unreasonable for officers to defend themselves? What specific...

You missed the sarcasm.:rolleyes: