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  1. muttly

    Ben Carson and the 3rd rail

    Or Politico digging a hole for themselves...
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    Did he fear for his life?

    Certainly if an officer is going to choose a more aggressive approach to arresting someone, they should be responsible for the consequences. For the sake of discussion, let's say the officer should have arrested her. How would officer Cheri do the arrest? (Hand cuff her by yourself )
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    Did he fear for his life?

    Maybe the arrest shouldn't have happened. As pointed out previously, it probably should have been dealt with differently by school officials regarding the response to the girl and also summoning an officer to take care of the situation. But since the officer was called and he decided to arrest...
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    just a thread....

    The winged wheel. Best ever...
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    just a thread....

    Very nice design, but the current logo is iconic. Unlikely to change tradition.
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    Did he fear for his life?

    Not sure what interjecting race has to do with this particular discussion. It's going to happen-- a white cop arresting a black person. As well as a white cop arresting a white person aggressively. Just because the white officer used an aggressive tactic( without injury) on a black person, some...
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    Did he fear for his life?

    Students Stage Walkout In Support Of Deputy Fired Over Viral Video
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    Did he fear for his life?

    He initially was running from the officer and became a significant distance away. At that point an officer can deescalate from lethal force. Not continually engage someone who he physically couldn't handle by himself, let alone that he had another person he may have had to deal with. When he was...
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    Did he fear for his life?

    Got it. So in your bizarro world it's proper not to deescalate even if someone is no longer an immediate threat and is running away. There is no difference in that scenario involving lethal force, but you see a huge difference when an officer chooses a more aggressive approach to subdue...
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    Did he fear for his life?

    Not necessarily a pattern. There is adage that goes something like this: If an officer has been around long enough they will be accused of something. And if they haven't been, they probably have not done their job very well.
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    Did he fear for his life?

    Shooting at a jaywalker would be reckless. What this officer did wasn't reckless. He was totally under control and initially used the girl's own gravity to help extricate her from the desk without slamming to the floor. He then cleared her from the desk by sliding her on the floor and creating...
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    Did he fear for his life?

    He did it forcefully, but again it was done without causing injury. The desk took the brunt of the initial impact. The girl, once on the floor,was then tossed and slid along the floor a few feet. She was not slammed to the floor. She would have sustained severe injuries if she was slammed to the...
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    Did he fear for his life?

    It has to do with excessive force. No injuries were incurred by the level of force by the officer. The most people are saying is 'it looks bad'. Often times people bring up injuries that occur during altercations with police officers( injuries sustained by the officer or the individual) as an...
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    Did he fear for his life?

    The girl was not injured.
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    Did he fear for his life?

    It wasn't necessary to slide her it to the hallway, but yes, that would have been excessive. In this instance though, the officer was taking her out of her school desk. And because she was resisting, her legs snagged in the desk. The officer merely separated her from the desk and slid her along...
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    Did he fear for his life?

    'Didn't follow protocols' is just an excuse to use by the Sherrif's department when political correct bs hits the fan. Apparently any amount of force would have been too much. :rolleyes:
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    Did he fear for his life?

    Ticky tack stuff. She was tangled up a bit in her school chair as he tried to extricate her from it. The officer losing his job over this is just the result of politically correct cowardice from the Sherrif's department .
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    The Trump Card...

    Had to do it.
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    The Trump Card...

    So you are for letting everyone in. Got it.
  20. muttly

    The socialist debate

    Jim Webb is a dimishing breed of Democrat politician in that party. I liked it when he said this: "But we have to respect the tradition in this country of people who want to defend themselves and their family from violence. There are people in high levels in this government who have bodyguards...
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