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Look it up Inkasana. It a very interesting time in the history of our region and it shapped the maps as you know them today. Layoutshooter

Again Doug, read some history, 4200 over all these years are NOT huge losses. While I hate the loss of everyone I understand the need. Again, on D-Day ALONE more that 6000 died. Too bad, it kinda sounds like you slept through history. Layoutshooter

That is part of it. Another part is it just so far over thier heads. They learned nothing in school about these matters and likely never took part in anything like it. The unknown scares them. They don't wish to learn because that would scare them even more. Most American want to watch sports...

Oh man, if they start on me for misspellking I am in bige troubel. Layoutshooter

Clinton was well aware of the WMD arsenal that Saddam had. He also had no idea in the world how to deal with it or anything else that involved the military. Just look at it from a personnel side. You have a boss that "loathes" the very work that you do, that feels you are a "fool" for doing it...

LOL, even we get lucky once in a while. :D Layoutshooter

Greg, I think that Doug, as many Americans, is overwhellemed by this. They have no understanding so instesd of trying to learn they lash out. It is much easier to deal with things if you don't have to learn or understand what is really going on. Kinda like a ostriage. It is much easier to bury...

4200 is less than was killed on the beaches of Normandy in ONE day!!. I dont's be-little there sacrifice. I have had and will again have relitives fighting over there. Clinton cut counter-terrorism programs out of the intell buget first and most above all else. He cut troop levels well below...

We are outta here in the morning, barring any problems of course. CA to AL, gotta love it!! Layoutshooter

Have you ever spoken with Cheany? I have. I found him smart, insightful, very serious abiut his work and very mindfull of the gravity of his role. I would have liked to have worked more closely with the man. He assumed that I knew my job, which I did, or I would not be in the position I was in...

You have no idea in the world of what you are talking about. I can sight chapter and verse on what programs Clinton gutted, troop levels cut and how it directly led to 9/11. If I could get my hands on the "stuff" I worked with you would say it is wrong. How much experience do you have in this...

Remember Greg, that very little truth about what is called the Cold War has ever came out. Much has been surpressed in the texts and college courses. Media reporting was VERY baised AGAINST the US and the entire time in history was reported from the bias. You have to want to learn what happened...

Some of those "dead Soviets" are beamng with pride from "Down Below" as they look up lovingly on thier "son" Barry. Layoutshooter

I agree, how do you do that without military action? Nothing short of that will work. Our military is way too small, it never fully recovered from Clinton and now we are gutting it further. I see little hope for peace in that region or anywhere now. Weakness breeds contempt. Layoutshooter

No one was home at the time or they would have never made it to trial. They would have taken up permenant residence in La Salle's biggist "community", the cemetary. Layoutshooter

Yes, many of the groups opporating there are Al Qada based. Funny, we are told to deal "nice" with them to maybe end this mess but they are the ones who use food as a weapon. They are the ones that attack aid convoys. It would be hard to bomb them back the the stone age, they are already there...

Yes and it spilled over into college sports, mainly Michigan and Ohio State. We still have "border skirmishes" around the Toledo/Michigan line. When my house was broken into, I live in Michingan, it was part of a Toledo gang of "crack heads" that did it. More proof of the "Danger" that is...

Nope, sorry. It does not. Sadly there are few good sources to learn reality out there. Much of the real history of the Cold War was deliberatly surpressed and mis-reported. Even much of what happened during WW2 seems to be going through some "Re-Writes" This is NOT a good thing. We are losing...

Wolverines have never been native to Michigan. We are far south of thier range. The last sighting of one in Michigan was four or five years ago up in the "Thumb" area. I forget the town. It was found running around on a land fill. Nothing bothered it there, nothing with enough "guts" to try. It...

YEPPER!!! :D And all that "stuff" flows downhill!!!! :rolleyes: Layoutshooter