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Train Wreckz iz where the action iz ... :eek:

I'm not sure what the VA's position has been on the stuff that's coming up as a possible result of the exposures that happened at Lejeune ... But I think that is one of the things that Master Sgt. Jerry Ensminger was going for: H.R. 1742: Janey Ensminger Act "To amend title 38, United States...

I'm well aware of it ;) (I worked in three types of places - automotive machine shops, marine vessels, and oil refineries/chemical plants - that used chemicals ..... some of them very nasty - and none of them were government or military) Yup - bad stuff. I use (spray) 2,4D (half of the Agent...

And the sad irony in that is probably in many cases they were (or are) exempt from the safety regulations that are imposed on the general public. Generally speaking, yes ..... but there are a good number of us in the general public that were or have been in a high range of exposure ....... even...

If I had to bet, I'd guess that there are many more beyond these three (Lejeune, BGAD, APG) .... The real tragedy at Lejeune was that (at a minimum) the base command eventually knew (even if they weren't aware back in the '50's) there was a problem ..... but apparently sought to cover it up...

I'm sure there are many reasons why they do ..... but if you have something in particular in mind please feel to share it with us ....

I caught an old favorite last night: The Andromeda Strain When it originally came out, my HS biology teacher had a class field trip to go see it which I went on ..... His excuse: it had footage of an electron microscope ..... The other thing I watched was the television premiere of: Semper...

Believe me .... just don't believe them .... Brother, that is, among other things, why me and thee exist ...... to provide the pain necessary for them to find the will to resist ....

..... and no "visitors" either ....

No ..... Noooo ! ..... and now please: just go back to your bedroom .....

Minor point: .... like her ......

I think he's just making the point that because on a secular basis marriage is by necessity a contractual legal relationship (which involves things like property rights, etc.) that there will be a potential for some governmental involvement (arbiter of contract disputes, etc.) no matter what...

Now that right there is pretty funny .... hilarious in fact .....

I completely missed your earlier comments above (now quoted below) ... dunno how I managed that) - but you nailed it - totally spot on: Precisely. With respect to any interface, interaction, or involvement that government needs to have with the subject of marriage - which should always be on a...

None at present .... since he is merely a private citizen with no power at this point ..... a condition in which, with any luck, he shall remain ....

Absolutely .... and I'm quite willing to lend a hand .... to keep any potential frothiness at bay ..... Well .... someone of them probably do (Bible-bangers) ..... but not all ..... Some of 'em do all kinds of wild and crazy things ..... just like the Dems .....

While I might tend to agree with the sentiment expressed in some instances, the difficulty here is that it's apparently not the surname that is hyphenated ..... but rather her given, or Christian, name .... ;)

Exactly. I'll take it a step further: We - the citizens of this nation - don't need anyone dictating to us .... it ain't what we're about ....