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  1. Turtle

    Just had a penitentiary flashback....

    The quotes in order are from : Old English proverb, earliest known recording in 1576. Shakespeare The Quran Pete Seeger and King Solomon William Congreve, The Mourning Bride (Act III, Scene 2), 1697
  2. Turtle

    Weekly (right-wing) Wing-Nut Roundup

    The facts don't say otherwise, though. That link is just straight-up agenda driven news, with twisted facts and fantasy presented solely to rail on churches and conservatives. Soooo, the "facts" you claim say otherwise aren't even pertinent to where the money comes from to aid the poor. Read...
  3. Turtle

    "Clock" maker invited to White House

    Yes. HA! No, and neither do you. I already said I didn't. I don't know who she is or anything about her. It's not a red herring, it shows both a pattern and an atmosphere of islamophobia. No, they freaked out about it for 5 months. 2 minutes on Snopes would have told them it was fake and...
  4. Turtle

    "Clock" maker invited to White House

    How do you go from multiple school officials and police in one sentence, to a single teacher you don't even know they name of in the next, and use that to form a question? It's not even a valid question since we don't know the name of the teacher. If the question is do we have any evidence that...
  5. Turtle

    "Clock" maker invited to White House

    Like I said, draw your own conclusions from that. If he has nothing to hide? Seriously? He's not obligated in any way to authorize the releases of his minor child's school records to the public. The fact that he hasn't authorized the release of the records in only an issue to the right wingnut...
  6. Turtle

    Football Referee blindsided.

    My final comment in Post #11 still stands.
  7. Turtle

    "Clock" maker invited to White House

    I know you oooohhhh, soooo baaaadly want to catch me in a gotcha, but this is just another example of that pesky stealth illiteracy kicking in, preventing functional reading comprehension. That astonishingly wrong conclusion has already been covered here where I explained in English so plain...
  8. Turtle

    Just had a penitentiary flashback....

    For one thing, that's a woefully incomplete quote. The full quote is: "Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen...
  9. Turtle

    Just had a penitentiary flashback....

    To be fair, or rather, if one wanted to be entirely correct, one shouldn't mentally lop off the contextual meat of the sentence and reply solely to what remains. The claim made within the question was not that all presidents take the oath of office on a Bible, period, the question was posed as...
  10. Turtle

    Pope and change.

    The realities change frequently, depending on the need. For the purposes of the Pope's visit and this thread, Obama has been deemed not a Muslim. When the Pope is gone, Obama will be re-deemed to be a Muslim once again. Those crafty deemers and redeemers...
  11. Turtle

    "Clock" maker invited to White House

    Clearly, he invented either the world's smallest functional briefcase, or the world's largest electrical plug. Take yer pick.
  12. Turtle

    Just had a penitentiary flashback....

    Horse hockey. It's a quote from a book, and the quote didn't mention it reference religion in any way, shape or form. It could have just as easily been a quote from Catcher in the Rye or Green Eggs and Ham. It was the quote itself that was important, not where it came from. No he didn't, and...
  13. Turtle

    The Trump Card...

    Oh, I dunno. I think I've heard them mention Welfare Spending once or twice. <ducking and running like only a turtle can>
  14. Turtle

    A good way to lose your credibility- Don't make this mistake.

    If one of your neighbors' houses burns down anytime soon, you in big trubble.
  15. Turtle

    Weekly (right-wing) Wing-Nut Roundup

    Sorry, that one doesn't fit the topic criteria. That link is just straight-up agenda driven news, with twisted facts and fantasy presented solely to rail on churches and conservatives. They're so wrapped up in their cause that they actually got the "mind blowing fact" wrong. They think the...
  16. Turtle

    "Clock" maker invited to White House

    To be fair, he's in 9th grade, at the beginning of the school year. School officials at the high school are unlikely to be familiar with very many incoming freshman at all. Having said that, even assuming they didn't know the first thing about him and didn't bother to consult his middle school...
  17. Turtle

    "Clock" maker invited to White House

    I most certainly did not. Not in this thread or in any other thread have I concluded such nonsense. In my first reply on this subject I concluded the teachers were asses with no common sense, and concluded the police merely had no common sense. I have not wavered from those conclusions except...
  18. Turtle

    The Trump Card...

    There's certainly a lot of wasteful spending by out government, including that given to USAID, but the link you provided was nothing more than unsubstantiated allegations that were successfully refuted by USAID and others. Just thought you should know that.
  19. Turtle

    The wave of Muslim immigration at Europe's borders is getting ugly.

    Clearly, my hopes were far too high. OK, Trump is newsworthy, generally speaking, at least within the context of his political campaign. And he makes himself available to them (unlike Fox News), so they cover him. A lot. CNN has had more Trump coverage than the other Republican candidates, and...
  20. Turtle

    "Clock" maker invited to White House

    I never accused them of being islamophobes, I accused them of being imbeciles, idiots and morons
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