The Trump Card...

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The Mainstream Media (and The Left) is outraged that Trump supporters aren't outraged at Trump. You'd think that after being as stunned, and as wrong, on election night as they were, they would bother to figure out what the heck is going on, to show a little intellectual curiosity. But no. They're still about political correctness and identity politics. And feels.

My favorite is one is the dead giveaway, where someone will begin a sentence with "As a <insert race/gender/orientation here>, blah, blah, blah..."

"As a black woman, I am deeply offended by..." nobody cares what color you are or what your gender is, lady. We just don't. We care even less about what offends you. We care about jobs, the economy, immigration, terrorism, border security... you know, things that matter.

A Deal Breaker for Trump’s Supporters? Nope. Not This Time, Either.
 

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so a Charlotteville police officer has come forward....They were ordered to stand down by Obama supporter Mayor
some of this could have been averted....and the driver of the car was a Obama/Hillary supporter as well its been divulged...Making the above by Booker T even more relevent.....the Blacks need to keep playing the Racism card to advance whatever thier game plan is.."The Pity Party"
 

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The Mainstream Media (and The Left) is outraged that Trump supporters aren't outraged at Trump. You'd think that after being as stunned, and as wrong, on election night as they were, they would bother to figure out what the heck is going on, to show a little intellectual curiosity. But no. They're still about political correctness and identity politics. And feels.

My favorite is one is the dead giveaway, where someone will begin a sentence with "As a <insert race/gender/orientation here>, blah, blah, blah..."

"As a black woman, I am deeply offended by..." nobody cares what color you are or what your gender is, lady. We just don't. We care even less about what offends you. We care about jobs, the economy, immigration, terrorism, border security... you know, things that matter.

A Deal Breaker for Trump’s Supporters? Nope. Not This Time, Either.
The Mainstream Media and The Left want to do and say anything they can to shame Trump supporters to abandon him. They were apoplectic when Trump said he would take a wait and see approach in accepting the results if he lost the election. A 'threat to Democracy' they clamored. Yet, over nine months later they are still unable and unwilling to accept the results of a Trump win. So they dissect every word he says or doesn't say to always cast Trump in the most negative light. The Fake News media flooding their shows with contributors (plenty of Never Never Ever Trumpers) crying and hysterical about how awful and racist Trump is and how it upsets them deeply. It's at least encouraging that a decent number of them aren't buying that erroneous shame game.
 

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Not a word about statues through the whole eight years of Obama, now they want the pink flamingoes out of the yard. lol:D
 
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Not a word about statues through the whole eight years of Obama, now they want the pink flamingoes out of the yard. lol:D
Monuments (statues, plaques, etc.) go up, and come down, depending on the sentiments and topics of conversation of those involved. When they go up, and come down, it always says more about those putting them up and taking them down that it does about who the monument is to.

When you see someone on CNN (or in print) who tries to illustrate the difference between, say, George Washington and Robert E Lee, in how Washington is better than Lee, they will invariably go with "George Washington took up arms to create this country. Lee took up arms against the country."

When they do that, you can confidently look a them, shake your head, and think to yourself, "F'ing moron." (Well, it's what I think)

The Civil War profoundly shaped the country as we know it today. As Nicolas Cage famously said in the movie National Treasure: Book of Secrets (2007), "Before the Civil War, the states were all separate. People used to say "the United States are..." It wasn't until the war ended that people started saying "the United States is..." Under Lincoln, we became one nation."

That's true. Before the Civil War, we were a collection of states bound by a contractual agreement called the Constitution. People thought of their own state as their "country." "Massachusetts is my country," John Adams said in 1770. "Virginia is my country," Robert E Lee said in 1861. The Civil War was fought over state's rights and central power of the federal government, primarily because the southern slave states wanted to exercise their power as a sovereign state for self-determination as to whether or not to allow slavery. Republican presidential candidate Abraham Lincoln ran on a platform which opposed the expansion of slavery (initially to new states and territories), but the sentiment was strong in the north to abolish slavery completely. Upon his election, seven states, led by South Carolina, seceded from the union of states (which the federal government, as well as all foreign governments, refused to recognize). People living in those seven states (SC, MS, FL, AL, GA, LA, TX) still considered their state as being their country, and they created a new confederation of states.

After the succession right after Lincoln's inauguration, US government troops refused to vacate Ft Sumter, located in South Carolina. Lincoln sent supply ships of arms and food to the fort, but the South Carolina militia, commanded by General P.G.T. Beauregard, stopped that cold in the harbor. Beauregard made repeated demands to the commander of the US troops occupying Ft Sumter to evacuate the fort, but the commander, Major Robert Anderson, steadfastly refused. Anderson was Beauregard's artillery instructor at West Point, and the two were close friends. But friends or not, an occupying force was unacceptable, and Beauregard launched an artillery bombardment on the fort that lasted 34 hours. None of the solders on either side were killed in the bombardment, but eventually the North soldiers relented and gave up the fort, and evacuated. The South Carolina militia placed the Union solders on a Confederate ship for the night, and the next day transferred them to a Union ship.

But immediately after the South Carolina victory, Lincoln called for raising Union troops to battle the South to prevent the South from leaving the Union. Upon that action, four more southern states seceded the Union, Tennessee, Arkansas, North Carolina, and Virginia.

The eleven states took up arms not against the United States as a country, but rather in order to defend their own countries. In Lee's case, he took up arms to defend Virginia against a belligerent, and literally, invading army. When he took up arms against the Union, the Union wasn't his country, Virginia was. So when people say Lee took up arms against the United States, they are either being disingenuous, ignorant, a moron, or are knowingly spinning the truth for their agenda. I'm going with moron, because they seem to actually believe what they're shoveling.

The South never invaded the North for the purposes of expanding their territory, but the North sure invaded the South for that purpose. The South was defending their homeland.

On another note, since doing away with all things White Supremacist is all the rage these days, it would seem that we need to disband forever Planned Parenthood, since it was founded by Margaret Sanger, a rather famous white supremacist, and eugenics enthusiast for the purposes of reducing the black population. Oh, no, what's a conscientious SJW Liberal to do?

On another note, Lincoln freed the slaves only in the states which seceded, but not in the Union states. He wanted to free the slaves and put them all on boats bound for Africa. Lincoln despised slavery, and he freed the slaves, but he also wanted to send them back to from where their ancestors came. Oh, no, what's a conscientious SJW Liberal to do?
 
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Charles Barkley speaks his mind without a filter, much like Trump. And Barkley is right - it doesn't affect the day-to-day lives of black people any more than it does white people. There are a few Confederate statues that I think should come down, because they were erected explicitly as a push back on the Civil Rights Movement or as a protest against the freeing of the slaves.

The Nathan Bedford Forrest (first Grand Wizard of the KKK and noted slayer of unarmed black people immediately after they surrendered) statue in downtown Memphis is one. It was put up as a warning to black folks, as if to say, "Don't think you can get all uppity now. We're watching you." Black people in Memphis have been complaining about that statue ever since it was erected, and the complaints have never stopped. There are 3 or 4 other sites where that statue is more appropriate, makes historical sense (Savannah, TN, for one, Selmer for another), but the Tennessee Historical Commission refuses to allow it to be moved (most recently, a little more than a year ago).

But for the most part, regardless of the side on which they fought, the Civil War pitted Americans against Americans (plus a couple of slave-owning Indian tribes who fought for the South), and removing those statues does the same thing, where one side is diminishing and dismissing Americans.
 

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Charles Barkley speaks his mind without a filter, much like Trump. And Barkley is right - it doesn't affect the day-to-day lives of black people any more than it does white people. There are a few Confederate statues that I think should come down, because they were erected explicitly as a push back on the Civil Rights Movement or as a protest against the freeing of the slaves.

The Nathan Bedford Forrest (first Grand Wizard of the KKK and noted slayer of unarmed black people immediately after they surrendered) statue in downtown Memphis is one. It was put up as a warning to black folks, as if to say, "Don't think you can get all uppity now. We're watching you." Black people in Memphis have been complaining about that statue ever since it was erected, and the complaints have never stopped. There are 3 or 4 other sites where that statue is more appropriate, makes historical sense (Savannah, TN, for one, Selmer for another), but the Tennessee Historical Commission refuses to allow it to be moved (most recently, a little more than a year ago).

But for the most part, regardless of the side on which they fought, the Civil War pitted Americans against Americans (plus a couple of slave-owning Indian tribes who fought for the South), and removing those statues does the same thing, where one side is diminishing and dismissing Americans.

True, what is amazing is how the local news channels beat the tar out of it. We are at our place in TN which is relatively close to Memphis and that is all they talk about. Even breaking into regular programing for enhancement. Must have seen them trying to put the sheet to cover it a 100 times through part of the Titans football game. Crazy for sure. And for added measure, they would sneak Cohen in on how he thinks Trump should be impeached with his new bill. Absolutely hilarious.
 

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Coal CEO expected Trump help, but administration said no

The decision is a rare example of friction between the beleaguered coal industry and the president who has vowed to save it. It also highlights a pattern emerging as the administration crafts policy: The president's bold declarations — both public and private — are not always carried through to implementation

On a happy note:

Toyota, Mazda to build $1.6 billion plant in US

Japanese automakers Toyota (TM) and Mazda announced on Friday a plan to build a $1.6 billion factory in the U.S., creating up to 4,000 new jobs.
 
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