More aca crap!

[layoutshooter]

MORE proof that the Marxist idiots in Washington have NO clue what they are doing. They can't think past the end of their nose, OR, this was deliberate. Either way, this has the potential to cause even MORE harm, as the ACA is now famous for. Let's see just how many volunteer fire and ambulance companies we can put out of business and how many people we can have with no FIRE or AMBULANCE coverage. Dang Gum Jack Weeds. When are people going to wise up and FIRE this no good for nuthin government!

'A public safety disaster': Obamacare could force THOUSANDS of volunteer fire departments to close

Read more: Obamacare mandates are set to shutter THOUSANDS of volunteer fire departments | Mail Online
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Affordable Care Act could cause end of volunteer fire companies, LoBiondo says



Affordable Care Act could cause end of volunteer fire companies, LoBiondo says - pressofAtlanticCity.com: Breaking News





Obamacare mandates are set to shutter THOUSANDS of volunteer fire departments | Mail Online

 

[WanderngFool]

I have a request. Please start calling them ultra-conservative marxists. It won't make a bit of sense but at least I won't get whiplash from you calling them ultra-conservatives one minute and marxists the next.

I'll betcha they figure something out to save the firefighters. An example of socialism that works very well by the way.

 

[davekc]

I have a request. Please start calling them ultra-conservative marxists. It won't make a bit of sense but at least I won't get whiplash from you calling them ultra-conservatives one minute and marxists the next.

I'll betcha they figure something out to save the firefighters. An example of socialism that works very well by the way.

Well maybe. As in maybe they will get an exemption filed by the republicans, and maybe if that is rejected, they get insurance and the costs are funded through additional property and or sales tax.
Is that what you meant?

 

[WanderngFool]

Well maybe. As in maybe they will get an exemption filed by the republicans, and maybe if that is rejected, they get insurance and the costs are funded through additional property and or sales tax.
Is that what you meant?

I don't know. I didn't offer an opinion on that. I doubt the problem is insurmountable.

 

[davekc]

I don't know. I didn't offer an opinion on that. I doubt the problem is insurmountable.

Nothing is insurmountable if someone else is paying for it.

 

[WanderngFool]

Nothing is insurmountable if someone else is paying for it.

You learn quickly.

Just so you know, I didn't read the article(s) that LOS posted links to and I don't plan to. I learned a long time ago to spot situations where conservatives foment outrage on their issue du jour and it's much easier and better for my chill factor to just ignore it all.

A couple that spring to mind:
Remember the runaway inflation we were supposed to have after the stimulus package? Yawn.
How about drill baby drill? Gas will hit $10/gallon under Obama. Another yawn.

It goes back to Fox News and their formula for ratings. Generating outrage is big business. Some people like having their strings yanked on I suppose.

 

[davekc]

You learn quickly.

Just so you know, I didn't read the article(s) that LOS posted links to and I don't plan to. I learned a long time ago to spot situations where conservatives foment outrage on their issue du jour and it's much easier and better for my chill factor to just ignore it all.

A couple that spring to mind:
Remember the runaway inflation we were supposed to have after the stimulus package? Yawn.
How about drill baby drill? Gas will hit $10/gallon under Obama. Another yawn.

It goes back to Fox News and their formula for ratings. Generating outrage is big business. Some people like having their strings yanked on I suppose.

You don't currently have inflation because we are borrowing money to keep it down. 17 trillion and counting. If interest rates and the cost to borrow rise, guess what?
As for oil, they were assuming the economy would get better and fuel prices would climb. You are right. The economy is pretty anemic so demand for fuel is fairly low. They probably had higher expectations of Obama and well, we see what we got.

Don't think it is a Fox formula. Granted they are successful, but if it was the working profitable plan, other networks would be doing it.

 

[layoutshooter]

I have a request. Please start calling them ultra-conservative marxists. It won't make a bit of sense but at least I won't get whiplash from you calling them ultra-conservatives one minute and marxists the next.

I'll betcha they figure something out to save the firefighters. An example of socialism that works very well by the way.

How is a volunteer fire company socialist? It is the exact opposite. Socialism preaches that government assumes the responsibility for people, volunteers assume it for themselves. We paid for our own trucks, by selling subs and chicken corn soup. It was done by HARD WORK! We EARNED it ourselves! Earning is ANOTHER concept that socialists, Marxist don't like. It implies self-reliance. They HATE self reliant people, too hard to control them,

You also don't understand why there is no difference between Marxists and ultra-conservatives. It is a difficult concept to understand.

 

[WanderngFool]

davekc - You don't see the pattern? This is from today:

Obama creates international incident with 'selfie' at Mandela service | Fox News

International incident is just a mite strong, but not if you're trying to generate outrage.



This is from yesterday:

Cuban-American lawmakers dismayed over Obama handshake with 'thug' Castro | Fox News

"It is nauseating," Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, R-Fla., who fled Cuba with her family when she was a child, told Fox News.

I didn't have to read any further. Fox [cough, cough] News is just doing what they do. The pattern and the puppet strings are plain as day. Outrage is a ratings goldmine.

 

[WanderngFool]

How is a volunteer fire company socialist? It is the exact opposite. Socialism preaches that government assumes the responsibility for people, volunteers assume it for themselves. We paid for our own trucks, by selling subs and chicken corn soup. It was done by HARD WORK! We EARNED it ourselves! Earning is ANOTHER concept that socialists, Marxist don't like. It implies self-reliance. They HATE self reliant people, too hard to control them,

You also don't understand why there is no difference between Marxists and ultra-conservatives. It is a difficult concept to understand.

It's a collective.

On the Marxist/ultra-conservative thing. One is most of the way to the left end of the scale, the other is most of the way to the right. Are they equally bad? In my view yes. Are they the same thing? No, they are not congruent.

 

[davekc]

davekc - You don't see the pattern? This is from today:

Obama creates international incident with 'selfie' at Mandela service | Fox News

International incident is just a mite strong, but not if you're trying to generate outrage.



This is from yesterday:

Cuban-American lawmakers dismayed over Obama handshake with 'thug' Castro | Fox News



I didn't have to read any further. Fox [cough, cough] News is just doing what they do. The pattern and the puppet strings are plain as day. Outrage is a ratings goldmine.

Ummm maybe. But you are projecting that as if Fox is the primary source for these stories.
If Fox is only where you are looking, then that is what you will find. However, the same stories are running in the other networks.

President Obama Poses for Selfie at Nelson Mandela's Memorial Service - ABC News

or,
Obama handshake with Cuba's Castro stirs reaction - latimes.com

I would hardly call ABC or the LA Times pawns for Fox News. Numerous stories from all the same news sources.

 

[layoutshooter]

It's a collective.

On the Marxist/ultra-conservative thing. One is most of the way to the left end of the scale, the other is most of the way to the right. Are they equally bad? In my view yes. Are they the same thing? No, they are not congruent.

It is not a "collective".

Conservatism is the "Status Quo" Marxism, controls the people, kings did, dictator dis. The "Liberal" is the opposite idea. Freedom.

YOUR idea of "LIBERAL" is the use of some kind of force to get what you want. It demands the loss of freedom and government control of the People. A return to the norm, conservatism.

 

[WanderngFool]

Ummm maybe. But you are projecting that as if Fox is the primary source for these stories.
If Fox is only where you are looking, then that is what you will find. However, the same stories are running in the other networks.

President Obama Poses for Selfie at Nelson Mandela's Memorial Service - ABC News

or,
Obama handshake with Cuba's Castro stirs reaction - latimes.com

I would hardly call ABC or the LA Times pawns for Fox News. Numerous stories from all the same news sources.

Sure but the difference in tone is remarkable. I doubt a day has passed since January 2009 that this supposed news organization hasn't laid into Obama for something. You can turn a blind eye to it if you choose to, but I enjoy trying to pick out patterns and the pattern here is clear.

Oh well, back to my commune. lol They predicted we'd all be sent to communes when Obama took office. (to be fair I think that was on Glenn Beck's show )

 

[davekc]

I don't turn a blind eye to it but I would advise to obtain news from a variety of sources. I would be the first to admit, I like Fox News as I have said before. Simply because they will cover stories others won't, granted with some right wing spin, and they just simply look better doing it.

 

[WanderngFool]

It is not a "collective".

Conservatism is the "Status Quo" Marxism, controls the people, kings did, dictator dis. The "Liberal" is the opposite idea. Freedom.

YOUR idea of "LIBERAL" is the use of some kind of force to get what you want. It demands the loss of freedom and government control of the People. A return to the norm, conservatism.

I thought I'd do a quick google and post a picture showing the political spectrum. Wow! Every nutcase in the world has posted something trying to prove how evil the "other side" is. I'm about to lock my doors. lol Should I post the "The Goal Is Always Socialism" one for a laugh? Nah. Someone would take it seriously.

 

[layoutshooter]

I thought I'd do a quick google and post a picture showing the political spectrum. Wow! Every nutcase in the world has posted something trying to prove how evil the "other side" is. I'm about to lock my doors. lol Should I post the "The Goal Is Always Socialism" one for a laugh? Nah. Someone would take it seriously.

The goal in this country IS socialism, by force of course. It cannot be put into effect any other way.

ALL political extremes are bad. BOTH of our parties are. NEITHER work towards increasing freedoms, BOTH do all they can to to restrict it. Moving closer towards the ultra-conservative ideas that we fought to install our liberal ideas when we formed this country. SO THERE!