None of The Above

[blackpup]

Not a new idea, I think it might be worth a try.

‘None of the Above’ Should Be on the Ballot - John Fund - National Review Online

Nevada apparently already has a version of this their books.

jimmy

 

[layoutshooter]

We need it on the National level and make it BINDING!

 

[blackpup]

I am for it, if for no other reason than to shake the rascals up!.

jimmy

 

[LDB]

It's the worst good idea around because it causes the incumbent to be reelected and we can not afford that. Distasteful though it may be, voting anything other than Romney is voting for Obama.

Vote Mormon not Moron.

 

[xiggi]

A completely dumb idea. They could just add a line that says waste my vote instead.

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[layoutshooter]

How about this? Put the following, non-binding question, on the ballot. Then MAYBE those criminals in Washington would get the idea what millions of voters REALLY think of them!


"Would you prefer that BOTH Obama and Romney lose this election?" Yes, NO?

As to the wasting of our vote, voting for EITHER Obama or Romney is not only a waste of a vote, it's a waste of time. Might as well vote for the man in the moon.

Romney is ALREADY showing his leftist side on health care.

 

[xiggi]

How about this? Put the following, non-binding question, on the ballot. Then MAYBE those criminals in Washington would get the idea what millions of voters REALLY think of them!


"Would you prefer that BOTH Obama and Romney lose this election?" Yes, NO?

As to the wasting of our vote, voting for EITHER Obama or Romney is not only a waste of a vote, it's a waste of time. Might as well vote for the man in the moon.

Romney is ALREADY showing his leftist side on health care.

And again no one man is going to be everything anyone wants. It took a century to screw things up its not going to be fixed in one or two terms. But some will try to live in fantasy land and think they are doing some sort of protest vote. Obama thanks them.


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[layoutshooter]

And again no one man is going to be everything anyone wants. It took a century to screw things up its not going to be fixed in one or two terms. But some will try to live in fantasy land and think they are doing some sort of protest vote. Obama thanks them.


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I am WELL aware of how long it took to mess this up. I KNOW it will take as long or LONGER to fix it. Trading one Marxist for another is not even a start. Romney is NOT going to do SQUAT to turn things around. He is as big a joke as Barry is. The Congress will do NOTHING but continue the same old stuff and the puppets in the SC will continue to rubber stamp the take over. Classic Soviet moves.

It is a real shame what has happened in this country. We INVITED this mess upon ourselves and will continue to hold the door open for them again this year.

 

[LDB]

Yes, the door is open and will remain open. The question is how far open. With Obama we know it's going to be 100% open along with every window. With Romney it won't be as wide open. It will be too far open, but it won't be 100%. There is a major difference between beginning to shut the door and leaving the door 100% open. Like it or not, and the sensible don't like it, it's still better to vote for a partial closer of the door than to vote for leaving it wide open or to not vote out of disgust which is absolutely voting for the incumbent and leaving the door 100% open.

Vote Mormon not Moron

 

[xiggi]

I am WELL aware of how long it took to mess this up. I KNOW it will take as long or LONGER to fix it. Trading one Marxist for another is not even a start. Romney is NOT going to do SQUAT to turn things around. He is as big a joke as Barry is. The Congress will do NOTHING but continue the same old stuff and the puppets in the SC will continue to rubber stamp the take over. Classic Soviet moves.

It is a real shame what has happened in this country. We INVITED this mess upon ourselves and will continue to hold the door open for them again this year.

Your anger is crowding your vision. There is a huge D8reference between the two and how you fail to see that goggles the imagination.

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[layoutshooter]

Your anger is crowding your vision. There is a huge D8reference between the two and how you fail to see that goggles the imagination.

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No, I am missing nothing. Romney ALREADY said he would like to keep parts of Obama Care. He is saying NOTHING about closing and controlling the borders. We KNOW he is anti-gun, therefor, anti-Constitution. He believes in BIG government, which AGAIN proves he is anti-Constitution. IF he is elected we will have the SAME speaker and MOST of the same House. We MAY win the Senate but they will just be Republicans. SAMEO SAMEO.

NOTHING will change.

He is not even TRYING to WIN! Rambling speeches about "creating" jobs. NO specific ideas, plans or goals. Sounds like a "Chicken in every pot" guy when he speaks. NOTHING about cutting out departments. NOTHING about getting the government OUT of health care or any number of other things they have stuck their nose into for far too long. NOTHING about repealing the 1968 gun law or REQUIRING the CONGRESS to pass laws, as REQUIRED by the U.S. Constitution, and getting RID of the regulatory power of the agencies. NOTHING about impeaching SC judges who are anti-Constitution or can't read.

What I am missing? I tried 'goggling' my mind for more but I can't find anything good.

Romney is MORE than welcome to call me and explain to me where I am wrong.

 

[davekc]

No, I am missing nothing. Romney ALREADY said he would like to keep parts of Obama Care. He is saying NOTHING about closing and controlling the borders. We KNOW he is anti-gun, therefor, anti-Constitution. He believes in BIG government, which AGAIN proves he is anti-Constitution. IF he is elected we will have the SAME speaker and MOST of the same House. We MAY win the Senate but they will just be Republicans. SAMEO SAMEO.


NOTHING will change.

He is not even TRYING to WIN! Rambling speeches about "creating" jobs. NO specific ideas, plans or goals. Sounds like a "Chicken in every pot" guy when he speaks. NOTHING about cutting out departments. NOTHING about getting the government OUT of health care or any number of other things they have stuck their nose into for far too long. NOTHING about repealing the 1968 gun law or REQUIRING the CONGRESS to pass laws, as REQUIRED by the U.S. Constitution, and getting RID of the regulatory power of the agencies. NOTHING about impeaching SC judges who are anti-Constitution or can't read.

What I am missing? I tried 'goggling' my mind for more but I can't find anything good.

Romney is MORE than welcome to call me and explain to me where I am wrong.

What are you reading? Who knows if it is good or bad, but he has had a budget out there that kills quite a few programs. Most controversial is planned parenthood. As far as healthcare, he said he would repeal Obamacare but did want something that provides care for pre-existing conditions.
On immigration he already said no amnesty. Problem with that is he doesn't get much in the way of Latino support. As for gun control who knows. He has said little about it other than Ryan is a big gun supporter. I could go on but you really need to get more informed.
Doesn't mean you vote for Romney if your preference is Obama, but no, they won't be the same.

 

[layoutshooter]

He was PRO abortion when it suited his needs in MA and did not change until he started running for Pres the first time. Can't trust him on that one. He was a gun banner in MA and did not change his tune until he started running for Pres the first time. Can't trust him on that one. He has not just came out and said that he will close the borders. He will LIKELY flip flop on just about anything IF it will buy him votes. I believe he will flip on amnesty as well. It is only about power for the party and government. As to FORCING insurance companies to cover preexisting conditions, that is NONE of the governments business. ALL mandates for coverage from the feds MUST be ended. Just MORE socialist BS.

PLEASE PROVE me wrong, I DON'T want Obama but I cannot continue to vote for the 'lessor of two evils'. They may be less evil than Obama but they are STILL evil. I don't like or trust Romney. I feel the same about Obama.

 

[davekc]

Since he hasn't done anything on the amnesty issue, no one can say what he would do. As for pre- existing conditions, many of the large insurance carriers have already adopted it. With this, either the insurance industry does it or the government is involved. When these people can't get coverage and get sick, guess who will be paying? Most don't have the assets to cover the care so the government is involved when they can't pay. Just how it is.
As for the rest of it, you aren't going to get the perfect candidate. Can only work with what is there. And right now, there are only two.

 

[layoutshooter]

Since he hasn't done anything on the amnesty issue, no one can say what he would do. As for pre- existing conditions, many of the large insurance carriers have already adopted it. With this, either the insurance industry does it or the government is involved. When these people can't get coverage and get sick, guess who will be paying? Most don't have the assets to cover the care so the government is involved when they can't pay. Just how it is.
As for the rest of it, you aren't going to get the perfect candidate. Can only work with what is there. And right now, there are only two.

No, the Federal government should NOT be paying for those who can't/don't pay. That is NOT the responsibility of the People. It is solely the responsibility of the individual. The insurance companies are only adopting it because they have too. It WILL drive the cost of insurance UP, WAY UP.

Perfect? Not even CLOSE to barely acceptable! Two? Can't add those two together and get 1/2 a candidate between them.

Romney says he wants to enforce the existing gun laws, his words from his web site. That then would include the 1968 gun law that gives the BATFE the authority to control what guns may or may not be imported and what we may or may not have WITHOUT going through Congress or any laws being passed. That is EXACTLY how they outlawed the importation of 100% of semi-auto or pump shotguns. Unless congress acts to defend that again, that ban goes into effect on Jan 1, 2013. Romney would enforce this. His words, not mine. Can't trust him.

 

[EASYTRADER]

Dave,
About the best you can say for Romney is he not a Marxist. Trading Obama for 4 more years of Big Government republicanism isn't gonna be that great. I realise we don't have choice, but let's not pretend that Romney is some sort of American hero, the factoids he is a big government stooge, like every president in the last 100 years except Coolidge.

 

[davekc]

Dave,
About the best you can say for Romney is he not a Marxist. Trading Obama for 4 more years of Big Government republicanism isn't gonna be that great. I realise we don't have choice, but let's not pretend that Romney is some sort of American hero, the factoids he is a big government stooge, like every president in the last 100 years except Coolidge.

That I do agree on. He is no savior. Not even close. When you are down to the two we have, he is only better by default.

 

[EASYTRADER]

The problems the US has have all been created by the Government, in the republiscam party only 3 candidates this year talked about actually reducing government, Gary Johnson, Ron Paul and Herman Cain. Of those 3 Gary Johnson actually did it when he was govenor of NM.

Romney has 0 record of making government smaller, which is the point. Romney will be a better manger of the decline, but so far i have heard him say nothing that makes me think he even gets the problem. As for obama care, the day after the convention, romneys people wers out talking about how maybe it didnt need to be repealed just tweaked around the edges.

 

[davekc]

No, the Federal government should NOT be paying for those who can't/don't pay. That is NOT the responsibility of the People. It is solely the responsibility of the individual. The insurance companies are only adopting it because they have too. It WILL drive the cost of insurance UP, WAY UP. .

Might be a grand thought, but not reality. If someone seeks care in a emergency and has no money, who is going to pay for that if they have nothing to begin with? I don't don't think we are going to let the dying lay in the street.
At the point of emergency care, the "people" are now involved.
Explain to me how you would change that?

 

[EASYTRADER]

Having said all that, honestly i think in the long run the US will be better if Obama gets reelected, the quicker the federal government defualts, the quicker we will be rid of it.