Global Warming and Computer Generated Models Accuracy

[blackpup]

In another thread Layoutshooter and I were discussing solar powered A/C for vehicles, he posted a link to the mythbusters website . They were testing the theory that driving with your windows up and A/C on would save fuel over driving with windows down and a/c off . In the summary mythbusters indicated that a computer model proved this true, The real world results proved the computer model inaccurate . My question is how can you trust global warming models with many variables unproven or in dispute.

jimmy

 

[layoutshooter]

You can't. There is a very old saying in the computer world, garbage in, garbage out.

Far too many "scientists" set out to "prove" man made global warming. That is NOT how real science is done. REAL science would have said something like, the Earth APPEARS to be warming, has this happened in the past? If so, why? What contributing factors MAY be influencing this now. How many cycles over what period of time have we seen like this? ETC ETC.

I think that MOST global warming dudes are cooking the books.

 

[EnglishLady]

You can't. There is a very old saying in the computer world, garbage in, garbage out.

Far too many "scientists" set out to "prove" man made global warming. That is NOT how real science is done. REAL science would have said something like, the Earth APPEARS to be warming, has this happened in the past? If so, why? What contributing factors MAY be influencing this now. How many cycles over what period of time have we seen like this? ETC ETC.

I think that MOST global warming dudes are cooking the books.

Pun intended I take it

I think, at the very best, they can only be a guideline

 

[blackpup]

Pun intended I take it

I think, at the very best, they can only be a guideline[/QUOTE

Seems to me most global warming advocates would like to tar and feather anyone who disagrees with them.

Jerry Pournelle's website has lots of interesting reading on this subject.

jimmy

 

[EnglishLady]

Pun intended I take it

I think, at the very best, they can only be a guideline[/QUOTE

Seems to me most global warming advocates would like to tar and feather anyone who disagrees with them.

Jerry Pournelle's website has lots of interesting reading on this subject.

jimmy

And vice versa

 

[layoutshooter]

Yes there was a pun intended.

It is just no my fault that most global warming people are wacked out. Most likely been smoking dope.

 

[layoutshooter]

Yes there was a pun intended.

It is just no my fault that most global warming people are wacked out. Most likely been smoking dope.

 

[EnglishLady]

Yes there was a pun intended.

It is just no my fault that most global warming people are wacked out. Most likely been smoking dope.

We'll see who is right when the next ice age comes along

 

[layoutshooter]

We'll see who is right when the next ice age comes along

Yep, we are likely overdue for one of those. They are normally preceeded by a WARMING period. MMMM, a NATURAL cycle?

 

[EnglishLady]

Yep, we are likely overdue for one of those. They are normally preceeded by a WARMING period. MMMM, a NATURAL cycle?

which a model projects does it not, from known data entered into it

 

[chefdennis]

Other then Algore and his enviro geeks and the tree hugger greenies, are people really still talking let alone thinking about Global Warming...

 

[layoutshooter]

which a model projects does it not, from known data entered into it

Nope, no computer model. It comes from reading the rocks. The fossil records. Deep earth core samples. etc etc etc.

 

[EnglishLady]

Nope, no computer model. It comes from reading the rocks. The fossil records. Deep earth core samples. etc etc etc.

all of which is data

 

[layoutshooter]

all of which is data

Yes, but not MAN INVENTED data. I learned that from my geology instructor at Leeds Polytechnic. He was smart about that rock stuff.

 

[layoutshooter]

all of which is data

Yes, but not MAN INVENTED data. I learned that from my geology instructor at Leeds Polytechnic. He was smart about that rock stuff.

 

[EnglishLady]

Yes, but not MAN INVENTED data. I learned that from my geology instructor at Leeds Polytechnic. He was smart about that rock stuff.

Agreed but it is all this different data which is input into the model

 

[layoutshooter]

Agreed but it is all this different data which is input into the model

Nope, it is input into my head, which is a good as it can get! NO computer can keep up with me! LOL!!!

Computers are almost as goofy as politicians are.

 

[EnglishLady]

Nope, it is input into my head, which is a good as it can get! NO computer can keep up with me! LOL!!!

Computers are almost as goofy as politicians are.

Costs a lot of money, sometimes spews out rubbish

I'm going to have to agree with you on that one

 

[layoutshooter]

Costs a lot of money, sometimes spews out rubbish

I'm going to have to agree with you on that one

Whew!! Finally!!

 

[blackpup]

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jimmy