An open letter to barry from Jon Voight

chefdennis

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While everyone has the right to speak their opinion, i am not big on celebrities spouting their BS as if it matters more then anyone elses because of their status. But the libs do it all the time. So when a Conservative actor speaks out, they might as well have the same kind of platform. So here is Jon Voights...

An open letter to President Obama from Jon Voight

By Jon Voight
11:06 a.m.,
Tuesday, June 22, 2010
An open letter to President Obama from Jon Voight - Washington Times

President Obama:

You will be the first American president that lied to the Jewish people, and the American people as well, when you said that you would defend Israel, the only Democratic state in the Middle East, against all their enemies. You have done just the opposite. You have propagandized Israel, until they look like they are everyone's enemy — and it has resonated throughout the world. You are putting Israel in harm's way, and you have promoted anti-Semitism throughout the world.

You have brought this to a people who have given the world the Ten Commandments and most laws we live by today. The Jewish people have given the world our greatest scientists and philosophers, and the cures for many diseases, and now you play a very dangerous game so you can look like a true martyr to what you see and say are the underdogs. But the underdogs you defend are murderers and criminals who want Israel eradicated.

You have brought to Arizona a civil war, once again defending the criminals and illegals, creating a meltdown for good, loyal, law-abiding citizens. Your destruction of this country may never be remedied, and we may never recover. I pray to God you stop, and I hope the people in this great country realize your agenda is not for the betterment of mankind, but for the betterment of your politics.

With heartfelt and deep concern for America and Israel,

Jon Voight
 

OntarioVanMan

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I'm Not too Fond of these Celebrities either But He Hit the Nail on The Head!

I think there are more common sense celebrities but they are greatly outnumbered..It is their careers best interest just not to say anything....Voight is an established actor and does not have to worry about backlash from the idiots he has to work with...
 

LDB

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He read the letter on the radio today. He's definitely smarter than the average celebrity and hits the 10 ring dead center with this.
 

Oilerman1957

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While everyone has the right to speak their opinion, i am not big on celebrities spouting their BS as if it matters more then anyone elses because of their status. But the libs do it all the time. So when a Conservative actor speaks out, they might as well have the same kind of platform. So here is Jon Voights...

An open letter to President Obama from Jon Voight

By Jon Voight
11:06 a.m.,
Tuesday, June 22, 2010
An open letter to President Obama from Jon Voight - Washington Times

Tha letter is just funny, The first president to lie to the American people? hahaha. He starts out with a lie, makes everything else moot.
 

moose

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No news here ,
John Voight have being a load supporter of the state of Israel for many years now ,and have being a strong opponent to the Obama administrations foreign legacy since day one .
here he is speaking only a few weeks ago in L.A .

YouTube - John Voight at Pro Israel Rally Los Angeles - Our President Has Put Israel In Harm's Way

unlike many celebrity hoe sound their voice ,he went to Sderot 2 years ago ,and spend a week 'under attack' ,so he can speak out first hand of that experience .
 

LDB

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President Obama:

You will be the first American president that lied to the Jewish people, and the American people as well, when you said that you would defend Israel

Nothing of a lie in Voight's statement. Obama did lie about that like he's lied about so many things.
 

aristotle

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Obama's whole presidency is premised on lies. Such as the lie about his being smart, competent and well qualified to manage anything more significant than a fast food joint. Barack Obama was and is a media creation. No substance and not much style. Luckily, the USA enjoys Divine protection and we will survive ... though, severe damage will have been done by four years of socialistic assault.
 

Oilerman1957

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President Obama:

You will be the first American president that lied to the Jewish people, and the American people as well, when you said that you would defend Israel

Nothing of a lie in Voight's statement. Obama did lie about that like he's lied about so many things.

Sure Voights statement is a lie, Obama will not be the first American president that lied to the American people, Obama wont be the first to have lied to the jewish people.
 

LDB

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You keep ignoring the qualifying statement. Have other presidents lied? Sure. Sometimes they have had sex. The point is that Voight never claims no other president has lied. He truthfully states Obama's lie about defending Israel, a specific point not a broad generality. I know Obama is your boy but you are defending the indefensible. Then again, he vowed no tax increases to the "regular guy" and transparency and both of those were major lies as well.
 

OntarioVanMan

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You keep ignoring the qualifying statement. Have other presidents lied TO THE JEWISH ? Sure. Sometimes they have had sex. The point is that Voight never claims no other president has lied TO THE JEWISH. He truthfully states Obama's lie about defending Israel, a specific point not a broad generality. I know Obama is your boy but you are defending the indefensible. Then again, he vowed no tax increases to the "regular guy" and transparency and both of those were major lies as well.


You are forgetting specific words important to your point...

You are doing that MSM thing and changing the meaning of what was said...

in bold I added what should be there, since the posters original statement did not end with lied,
but rather lied to the Jewish people..and he lied to the American people concerning the Jewish..and he certainly isn't the first....

But we are still agreement on a general theme...Obama lies just like every President has done...lies of omission are still a lie...
 
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greg334

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I thought that this was odd, but nevertheless it seems that voight has it a bit wrong.

If obama decided not to support Israel, then Israel would be at war today.

Why?

Because the arab world is watching us, not just Israel and they know that we will not just sit by while our president plays golf but rather see that he is out of office in record time.

If our great leader did actually pull support, then the aid that they get, the treaties we have with them and a lot of other things would just vaporize overnight.

He may be like Carter but he isn't going to act like Carter on everything.
 

Oilerman1957

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You keep ignoring the qualifying statement. Have other presidents lied? Sure. Sometimes they have had sex. The point is that Voight never claims no other president has lied. He truthfully states Obama's lie about defending Israel, a specific point not a broad generality. I know Obama is your boy but you are defending the indefensible. Then again, he vowed no tax increases to the "regular guy" and transparency and both of those were major lies as well.

Its not about Obama being my boy, since Jimmy Carter the Republicans have held the presdient office for 20 of the last 30 yrs, but yet you want to blame it all on Obama who hasnt even been in office 2 yrs yet. You want conservatives in office but yet they do no better. Who was it that said {read my lips, no new taxes} ? and then raised taxes as soon as he got elected. You see, it doesnt matter which party is in control they are going to lie to you and me to get elected. But what they have acconplished is divide you and me to one party or another and thus continue there monopoly on holding office. As LOS has stated many times, as long as we keep voting in demos, or Repbs things WILL NOT change. 1 party is no better then the other. so bashing liberals or conservatives is doing nothing but keeping us divided and thus following either party over the so called cliff.
 

layoutshooter

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We have NOT had a real Constitutional conservative in the office of President in my lifetime. We have had VERY few in congress. For us to have change we would have to elect some. It would be interesting. What a REAL change THAT would be.
 

Oilerman1957

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We have NOT had a real Constitutional conservative in the office of President in my lifetime. We have had VERY few in congress. For us to have change we would have to elect some. It would be interesting. What a REAL change THAT would be.

You know, I dont care what labels we put on people as long as they do the right thing, {coarse the right thing depends on who you ask and therein will always be the problem}.
 

layoutshooter

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You know, I dont care what labels we put on people as long as they do the right thing, {coarse the right thing depends on who you ask and therein will always be the problem}.

To me the right thing is LESS taxes, FEWER public freebies, MORE freedom and FAR LESS government interference in my life.

To me the right thing is spending LESS than we take in. Getting rid of the "Nanny State" would be a GREAT start. The VAST majority of Americans can fend for themselves far better than the government can provide for them.

The most important RIGHT thing is to realize that those we elect to represent us are not our rulers, they are employees, nothing more. WE control the government in this Country, or at least, that is how it is meant to be. Anything short of freedom is slavery. Government control is slavery. Nothing, not health care, education or any other thing you can think of is ever worth giving up your FREEDOM for. Once our freedom is gone it will never come back. No Human Being should ever chose to give up his freedom. Being a slave to government is a total waste of life.
 

Oilerman1957

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To me the right thing is LESS taxes, FEWER public freebies, MORE freedom and FAR LESS government interference in my life.

To me the right thing is spending LESS than we take in. Getting rid of the "Nanny State" would be a GREAT start. The VAST majority of Americans can fend for themselves far better than the government can provide for them.

The most important RIGHT thing is to realize that those we elect to represent us are not our rulers, they are employees, nothing more. WE control the government in this Country, or at least, that is how it is meant to be. Anything short of freedom is slavery. Government control is slavery. Nothing, not health care, education or any other thing you can think of is ever worth giving up your FREEDOM for. Once our freedom is gone it will never come back. No Human Being should ever chose to give up his freedom. Being a slave to government is a total waste of life.

All very good points, but we are the most free country in the world as it is, for now. But right now we have 2 parties controlling the gov, 35% will always vote repub, 35% will always vote demos, that leaves 30% controlling who gets elected { im sure the precents can be adjusted} but you get the jest of it. Im just tired of reading how bad conversatives are, or how bad the liberals are. All of that only enforces what the 2 parties want as they sit back and laugh at us fighting between each other.
 

layoutshooter

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All very good points, but we are the most free country in the world as it is, for now. But right now we have 2 parties controlling the gov, 35% will always vote repub, 35% will always vote demos, that leaves 30% controlling who gets elected { im sure the precents can be adjusted} but you get the jest of it. Im just tired of reading how bad conversatives are, or how bad the liberals are. All of that only enforces what the 2 parties want as they sit back and laugh at us fighting between each other.


That is why I call them Dumb-O-Crats and ReBumLiCans. NEITHER of those two criminal organizations that we call "political parties" are worth a diddilydoodally. NEITHER is doing the bidding of the People. They are BOTH out to rule and control. Both believe that socialism is the answer and that THEY are the ones that will impose their particular brand of it. They MUST go. I have been pretty consistent on that I would say.

The government we have is not able to lead, they are too arrogant to follow so they should just GET OUT OF THE WAY!! This government is the cause of the problems, NOT the solution.
 

Oilerman1957

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That is why I call them Dumb-O-Crats and ReBumLiCans. NEITHER of those two criminal organizations that we call "political parties" are worth a diddilydoodally. NEITHER is doing the bidding of the People. They are BOTH out to rule and control. Both believe that socialism is the answer and that THEY are the ones that will impose their particular brand of it. They MUST go. I have been pretty consistent on that I would say.

The government we have is not able to lead, they are too arrogant to follow so they should just GET OUT OF THE WAY!! This government is the cause of the problems, NOT the solution.

Yes you have, now if others would only get off the labeling of others and join together we could make a change. I think most Americans believe the same on 85% of the issues facing this country but the remaing 15% is what the 2 parties use to divide this country and make Americans face off against each other that only benefits the 2 parties. This labeling of people, ur a liberal, ur a conservative, is killing us, is dividing us, as the saying goes, divide and conquer.
 
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