Obama WH; we don’t need no stinking Senate

chefdennis

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Yeap as pointed out here, "barry has taught "Constitutional Law", he certainly knows how it works...so he must just not feel he is bound by it..........

Obama WH; we don’t need no stinking Senate!

Sunday, July 5, 2009, 4:14 PM
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Saw this one go by on a tweet and almost fell over:

With the clock running out on a new US-Russian arms treaty before the previous Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty, or START, expires on December 5, a senior White House official said Sunday said that the difficulty of the task might mean temporarily bypassing the Senate’s constitutional role in ratifying treaties by enforcing certain aspects of a new deal on an executive levels and a “provisional basis” until the Senate ratifies the treaty.

Whoa…isn’t this the president who gave George W. Bush SUCH a hard time about Presidential Signing Statements, before he fell in love with them? Now, suddenly, it’s – hey, I’m Barack Obama, and I won; I don’t have to follow the constitution! I don’t even need that Senate!

President Clinton once said, “flick of the wrist, law of the land; pretty cool.” But even he understood that, umm…as Glenn says, if you bypass the Senate, it’s not a treaty.

Wishing not to oversnark, Glenn writes:

A President can, of course, abide by a treaty even if it’s not ratified, so long as he’s not asserting any binding effect on parties not under his supervision, which is likely the case here. Still, it’s of a piece with the “it’s a rush, we don’t have time for the formalities” approach that this Administration has favored.

Emphasis mine, because it is so true: everything Obama does is hasty, rushed and performed under a big, flashing red sign that screams, “emergency; no time to discuss, no time to read, no time for bothersome procedure…just do what I want, and trust me, we’ll be fine…three minutes to critical mass…”

I can only imagine the guttural sounds of outrage that would be coming from the press and the left if Dubya had tried this.

Ed Morrissey wonders why this president needs to strongarm on this: “…how many seats in the Senate does Obama’s party hold? Isn’t it 60? If Obama is simply moving forward with a straightforward, supportable treaty with Russia to reduce nuclear stockpiles in an effective verification system, why couldn’t he get a quick ratification?

Well, that is, if the deal actually does put in place an effective verification system and doesn’t amount to a de facto unilateral disarmament. With exactly five months to win Senate approval, the effort by the Obama White House in floating this idea now makes it sound like Obama wants to give away the store in order to score some points with his 1980s no-nukes agenda. And as much as the Democrats howled over the supposed devotion of George Bush to a “unitary executive,” Obama seems to have no trouble bypassing the check on executive power for treaty negotiation written explicitly into the Constitution, in Article II, Section 2.

Constitutional law professor, and all…hmmm…Happy Independence Weekend.

My Democrat parents are rolling over in their graves.

Harry Reid helps us to understand: “And before anyone gets too high and mighty about principles, they should understand that principles are in the eye of the beholder.”

Irish Spy has more on Obama’s “disarming” world view.

Transparency, again: Reader CJ notices that if you want to watch Chip Reid and Helen Thomas make Robert Gibbs squirm about the WH’s blatant political theatre, you have to specifically search for the July 1st session. On the White House channel, that day is missing from the grid. Probably just an oversight. These things happen, what with a holiday weekend coming up. Of course, the July 2nd video is there, but you know…it’s a nothingburger that’s at least worth noting.

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RLENT

Veteran Expediter
"everything Obama does is hasty, rushed and performed under a big, flashing red sign that screams, “emergency; no time to discuss, no time to read, no time for bothersome procedure…just do what I want, and trust me, we’ll be fine…three minutes to critical mass…”

I can only imagine the guttural sounds of outrage that would be coming from the press and the left if Dubya had tried this.
Geezus-meezus chef .... where have ya been - ya been haven't freakin comatose lately or sumptin' have ya ?

Can you say B-A-I-L-O-U-T ?

Ever hear of Hank "you-got-to-trust-me-on-this-one-and-no-I-can't-tell-you-what-we're-gonna-do-with-the-money" Paulson, our former Treasury Secretary (and Wall Street insider) ?

Good grief man - the press and MSM was practically cheering 'em on ......

Bzzzzt. Try again.
 

chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
LOL, I didn't write it, but you are right bush did the same thing and it was b/sthen too, but you have to admit thatbarry and the msm has taken it to a new lower as the press as been in his pocket.....

ps: so i can take it that with the whole article, thats the one thing that you could take fault with, or that one thing means the rest if the article is a waste also?? I mean i really don't care, its not like i am keeping score...but i do find it funny that you could only comment about something that would bring bush into itwhen barry is made the same thing an art form when he complained about bushs use of fear to get things done when he was running for the office, but now that he is in, he does the same thing and with every thing he wants.....

I am surpriised you didn't say how he used fear to get us into that "illegal" war" as the libs like to call it....
 
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RLENT

Veteran Expediter
LOL, I didn't write it, but you are right bush did the same thing and it was b/s then too
Yupper.

but you have to admit that barry and the msm has taken it to a new lower as the press as been in his pocket.....
I will agree - but not as to the reason - ie. the mainstream media - they are really the wrong target.

The reason why it is taken to a new low is that it almost always is - that is the nature of the Executive (or those that seek that office) - history shows that when one obtains the position of the Executive, there is the inclination to expand the power of the office. And it's a progressive thing, IOW it tends to get worser, and worser, as time marches on.

ps: so i can take it that with the whole article, thats the one thing that you could take fault with, or that one thing means the rest if the article is a waste also??
Nope, neither - it just means in a quick perusal of the article (didn't even read all of it), that was the only thing I chose to comment on, as it's getting late, is almost my bedtime, and I need my beauty rest. :D

I mean i really don't care, its not like i am keeping score...but i do find it funny that you could only comment about something that would bring bush into it when barry is made the same thing an art form when he complained about bushs use of fear to get things done when he was running for the office, but now that he is in, he does the same thing and with every thing he wants.....
Power corrupts my friend ....

I am surpriised you didn't say how he used fear to get us into that "illegal" war" as the libs like to call it....
Oh, give me a chance :rolleyes: ..... I might get to that later today if I get bored or something .... :D
 

chefdennis

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LOL, both parties are guilty of "corruption"..... neither party or individual politicians have a strangle hold on that, they share in it equally for themost part... it is just nowwith thedems controling the house, senate, and the WH, they they have "absolute power" and "absolute corruption"
 
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