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chefdennis

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Yes they are! osamaba as bobby rush is at it again, and not they aren't even waiting for osamba to take office. rush as tried to get this bill passed before (with osamabas urging) we can olnly both that it goes as it has in the past, but this time it might fly with the dems in power and osamaba in offiice...

You will not beable to OWN a gun unless you have a FED licence issued by the att. General of the US, period end of conversation, You won't be able to buy or sell a gun unless it is done by a licenced dealer, no more face to face sales......Oh and if you have any type of medical issue, kiss your right to own a gun good bye....

Oh and this is FED law, it trumps anything in place in your state. This passes, id venture to say, many many many law abidibg citizen will instantly become criminals.....

Molon Labe


H.R.45
Title: To provide for the implementation of a system of licensing for purchasers of certain firearms and for a record of sale system for those firearms, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Rep Rush, Bobby L. [IL-1] (introduced 1/6/2009) Cosponsors (None)
Latest Major Action: 1/6/2009 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on the Judiciary.



SUMMARY AS OF:
1/6/2009--Introduced.

Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009 - Amends the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act to prohibit a person from possessing a firearm unless that person has been issued a firearm license under this Act or a state system certified under this Act and such license has not been invalidated or revoked. Prescribes license application, issuance, and renewal requirements.

Prohibits transferring or receiving a qualifying firearm unless the recipient presents a valid firearms license, the license is verified, and the dealer records a tracking authorization number. Prescribes firearms transfer reporting and record keeping requirements. Directs the Attorney General to establish and maintain a federal record of sale system.

Prohibits: (1) transferring a firearm to any person other than a licensee, unless the transfer is processed through a licensed dealer in accordance with national instant criminal background check system requirements, with exceptions; (2) a licensed manufacturer or dealer from failing to comply with reporting and record keeping requirements of this Act; (3) failing to report the loss or theft of the firearm to the Attorney General within 72 hours; (4) failing to report to the Attorney General an address change within 60 days; or (5) keeping a loaded firearm, or an unloaded firearm and ammunition for the firearm, knowingly or recklessly disregarding the risk that a child is capable of gaining access, if a child uses the firearm and causes death or serious bodily injury.

Prescribes criminal penalties for violations of firearms provisions covered by this Act.

Directs the Attorney General to: (1) establish and maintain a firearm injury information clearinghouse; (2) conduct continuing studies and investigations of firearm-related deaths and injuries; and (3) collect and maintain current production and sales figures of each licensed manufacturer.

Authorizes the Attorney General to certify state firearm licensing or record of sale systems.











11th CONGRESS

1st Session

H. R. 45

To provide for the implementation of a system of licensing for purchasers of certain firearms and for a record of sale system for those firearms, and for other purposes.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

January 6, 2009
Mr. RUSH introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary


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A BILL

To provide for the implementation of a system of licensing for purchasers of certain firearms and for a record of sale system for those firearms, and for other purposes.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE; TABLE OF CONTENTS.
(a) Short Title- This Act may be cited as `Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009'.

(b) Table of Contents- The table of contents for this Act is as follows:

Sec. 1. Short title; table of contents.

Sec. 2. Findings and purposes.

Sec. 3. Definitions.

TITLE I--LICENSING
Sec. 101. Licensing requirement.

Sec. 102. Application requirements.

Sec. 103. Issuance of license.

Sec. 104. Renewal of license.

Sec. 105. Revocation of license.

TITLE II--RECORD OF SALE OR TRANSFER
Sec. 201. Sale or transfer requirements for qualifying firearms.

Sec. 202. Firearm records.

TITLE III--ADDITIONAL PROHIBITIONS
Sec. 301. Universal background check requirement.

Sec. 302. Failure to maintain or permit inspection of records.

Sec. 303. Failure to report loss or theft of firearm.

Sec. 304. Failure to provide notice of change of address.

Sec. 305. Child access prevention.

TITLE IV--ENFORCEMENT
Sec. 401. Criminal penalties.

Sec. 402. Regulations.

Sec. 403. Inspections.

Sec. 404. Orders.

Sec. 405. Injunctive enforcement.

TITLE V--FIREARM INJURY INFORMATION AND RESEARCH
Sec. 501. Duties of the Attorney General.

TITLE VI--EFFECT ON STATE LAW
Sec. 601. Effect on State law.

Sec. 602. Certification of State firearm licensing systems and State firearm record of sale systems.

TITLE VII--RELATIONSHIP TO OTHER LAW
Sec. 701. Subordination to Arms Export Control Act.

TITLE VIII--INAPPLICABILITY
Sec. 801. Inapplicability to governmental authorities.

TITLE IX--EFFECTIVE DATE
Sec. 901. Effective date of amendments.

SEC. 2. FINDINGS AND PURPOSES.
(a) Findings- Congress finds that--

(1) the manufacture, distribution, and importation of firearms is inherently commercial in nature;

(2) firearms regularly move in interstate commerce;

(3) to the extent that firearms trafficking is intrastate in nature, it arises out of and is substantially connected with a commercial transaction, which, when viewed in the aggregate, substantially affects interstate commerce;

(4) because the intrastate and interstate trafficking of firearms are so commingled, full regulation of interstate commerce requires the incidental regulation of intrastate commerce;

(5) gun violence in the United States is associated with the majority of homicides, over half the suicides, and two-thirds of non-fatal violent injuries; and

(6) on the afternoon of May 10, 2007, Blair Holt, a junior at Julian High School in Chicago, was killed on a public bus riding home from school when he used his body to shield a girl who was in the line of fire after a young man boarded the bus and started shooting.

(b) Sense of the Congress- It is the sense of the Congress that--

(1) firearms trafficking is prevalent and widespread in and among the States, and it is usually impossible to distinguish between intrastate trafficking and interstate trafficking; and

(2) it is in the national interest and within the role of the Federal Government to ensure that the regulation of firearms is uniform among the States, that law enforcement can quickly and effectively trace firearms used in crime, and that firearms owners know how to use and safely store their firearms.

(c) Purposes- The purposes of this Act and the amendments made by this Act are--

(1) to protect the public against the unreasonable risk of injury and death associated with the unrecorded sale or transfer of qualifying firearms to criminals and youth;

(2) to ensure that owners of qualifying firearms are knowledgeable in the safe use, handling, and storage of those firearms;

(3) to restrict the availability of qualifying firearms to criminals, youth, and other persons prohibited by Federal law from receiving firearms; and

(4) to facilitate the tracing of qualifying firearms used in crime by Federal and State law enforcement agencies.

SEC. 3. DEFINITIONS.
(a) In General- In this Act:

(1) FIREARM; LICENSED DEALER; LICENSED MANUFACTURER; STATE- The terms `firearm', `licensed dealer', `licensed manufacturer', and `State' have the meanings given those terms in section 921(a) of title 18, United States Code.

(2) QUALIFYING FIREARM- The term `qualifying firearm' has the meaning given the term in section 921(a) of title 18, United States Code, as amended by subsection (b) of this section.

(b) Amendment to Title 18, United States Code- Section 921(a) of title 18, United States Code, is amended by adding at the end the following:

`(36) The term `qualifying firearm'--

`(A) means--

`(i) any handgun; or

`(ii) any semiautomatic firearm that can accept any detachable ammunition feeding device; and


`(B) does not include any antique.'.

TITLE I--LICENSING
SEC. 101. LICENSING REQUIREMENT.
Section 922 of title 18, United States Code, is amended by adding at the end the following:

`(aa) Firearm Licensing Requirement-

`(1) IN GENERAL- It shall be unlawful for any person other than a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector to possess a qualifying firearm on or after the applicable date, unless that person has been issued a firearm license--

`(A) under title I of Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009, which license has not been invalidated or revoked under that title; or

`(B) pursuant to a State firearm licensing and record of sale system certified under section 602 of Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009, which license has not been invalidated or revoked under State law.

`(2) APPLICABLE DATE- In this subsection, the term `applicable date' means--

`(A) with respect to a qualifying firearm that is acquired by the person before the date of the enactment of Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009, 2 years after such date of enactment; and

`(B) with respect to a qualifying firearm that is acquired by the person on or after the date of the enactment of Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009, 1 year after such date of enactment.'.

SEC. 102. APPLICATION REQUIREMENTS.
(a) In General- In order to be issued a firearm license under this title, an individual shall submit to the Attorney General (in accordance with the regulations promulgated under subsection (b)) an application, which shall include--

(1) a current, passport-sized photograph of the applicant that provides a clear, accurate likeness of the applicant;

(2) the name, address, and date and place of birth of the applicant;

(3) any other name that the applicant has ever used or by which the applicant has ever been known;

(4) a clear thumb print of the applicant, which shall be made when, and in the presence of the entity to whom, the application is submitted;

(5) with respect to each category of person prohibited by Federal law, or by the law of the State of residence of the applicant, from obtaining a firearm, a statement that the individual is not a person prohibited from obtaining a firearm;

(6) a certification by the applicant that the applicant will keep any firearm owned by the applicant safely stored and out of the possession of persons who have not attained 18 years of age;

(7) a certificate attesting to the completion at the time of application of a written firearms examination, which shall test the knowledge and ability of the applicant regarding--

(A) the safe storage of firearms, particularly in the vicinity of persons who have not attained 18 years of age;

(B) the safe handling of firearms;

(C) the use of firearms in the home and the risks associated with such use;

(D) the legal responsibilities of firearms owners, including Federal, State, and local laws relating to requirements for the possession and storage of firearms, and relating to reporting requirements with respect to firearms; and

(E) any other subjects, as the Attorney General determines to be appropriate;

(8) an authorization by the applicant to release to the Attorney General or an authorized representative of the Attorney General any mental health records pertaining to the applicant;

(9) the date on which the application was submitted; and

(10) the signature of the applicant.

(b) Regulations Governing Submission- The Attorney General shall promulgate regulations specifying procedures for the submission of applications to the Attorney General under this section, which regulations shall--

(1) provide for submission of the application through a licensed dealer or an office or agency of the Federal Government designated by the Attorney General;

(2) require the applicant to provide a valid identification document (as defined in section 1028(d)(2) of title 18, United States Code) of the applicant, containing a photograph of the applicant, to the licensed dealer or to the office or agency of the Federal Government, as applicable, at the time of submission of the application to that dealer, office, or agency; and

(3) require that a completed application be forwarded to the Attorney General not later than 48 hours after the application is submitted to the licensed dealer or office or agency of the Federal Government, as applicable.

(c) Fees-

(1) IN GENERAL- The Attorney General shall charge and collect from each applicant for a license under this title a fee in an amount determined in accordance with paragraph (2).

(2) FEE AMOUNT- The amount of the fee collected under this subsection shall be not less than the amount determined by the Attorney General to be necessary to ensure that the total amount of all fees collected under this subsection during a fiscal year is sufficient to cover the costs of carrying out this title during that fiscal year, except that such amount shall not exceed $25.

SEC. 103. ISSUANCE OF LICENSE.
(a) In General- The Attorney General shall issue a firearm license to an applicant who has submitted an application that meets the requirements of section 102 of this Act, if the Attorney General ascertains that the individual is not prohibited by subsection (g) or (n) of section 922 of title 18, United States Code, from receiving a firearm.

(b) Effect of Issuance to Prohibited Person- A firearm license issued under this section shall be null and void if issued to a person who is prohibited by subsection (g) or (n) of section 922 of title 18, United States Code, from receiving a firearm.

(c) Form of License- A firearm license issued under this section shall be in the form of a tamper-resistant card, and shall include--

(1) the photograph of the licensed individual submitted with the application;

(2) the address of the licensed individual;

(3) the date of birth of the licensed individual;

(4) a license number, unique to each licensed individual;

(5) the expiration date of the license, which shall be the date that is 5 years after the initial anniversary of the date of birth of the licensed individual following the date on which the license is issued (or in the case of a license renewal, following the date on which the license is renewed under section 104);

(6) the signature of the licensed individual provided on the application, or a facsimile of the application; and

(7) centered at the top of the license, capitalized, and in boldface type, the following:

`FIREARM LICENSE--NOT VALID FOR ANY OTHER PURPOSE'.

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chefdennis

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SEC. 104. RENEWAL OF LICENSE.
(a) Application for Renewal-

(1) IN GENERAL- In order to renew a firearm license issued under this title, not later than 30 days before the expiration date of the license, the licensed individual shall submit to the Attorney General (in accordance with the regulations promulgated under paragraph (3)), in a form approved by the Attorney General, an application for renewal of the license.

(2) CONTENTS- An application submitted under paragraph (1) shall include--

(A) a current, passport-sized photograph of the applicant that provides a clear, accurate likeness of the applicant;

(B) current proof of identity of the licensed individual; and

(C) the address of the licensed individual.

(3) REGULATIONS GOVERNING SUBMISSION- The Attorney General shall promulgate regulations specifying procedures for the submission of applications under this subsection.

(b) Issuance of Renewed License- Upon approval of an application submitted under subsection (a) of this section, the Attorney General shall issue a renewed license, which shall meet the requirements of section 103(c), except that the license shall include the current photograph and address of the licensed individual, as provided in the application submitted under this section, and the expiration date of the renewed license, as provided in section 103(c)(5).

SEC. 105. REVOCATION OF LICENSE.
(a) In General- If an individual to whom a license has been issued under this title subsequently becomes a person who is prohibited by subsection (g) or (n) of section 922 of title 18, United States Code, from receiving a firearm--

(1) the license is revoked; and

(2) the individual shall promptly return the license to the Attorney General.

(b) Administrative Action- Upon receipt by the Attorney General of notice that an individual to whom a license has been issued under this title has become a person described in subsection (a), the Attorney General shall ensure that the individual promptly returns the license to the Attorney General.

TITLE II--RECORD OF SALE OR TRANSFER
SEC. 201. SALE OR TRANSFER REQUIREMENTS FOR QUALIFYING FIREARMS.
Section 922 of title 18, United States Code, as amended by section 101 of this Act, is amended by adding at the end the following:

`(bb) Unauthorized Sale or Transfer of a Qualifying Firearm- It shall be unlawful for any person to sell, deliver, or otherwise transfer a qualifying firearm to, or for, any person who is not a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector, or to receive a qualifying firearm from a person who is not a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector, unless, at the time and place of the transfer or receipt--
`(1) the transferee presents to a licensed dealer a valid firearm license issued to the transferee--

`(A) under title I of Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009; or

`(B) pursuant to a State firearm licensing and record of sale system certified under section 602 of Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009 established by the State in which the transfer or receipt occurs;

`(2) the licensed dealer contacts the Attorney General or the head of the State agency that administers the certified system described in paragraph (1)(B), as applicable, and receives notice that the transferee has been issued a firearm license described in paragraph (1) and that the license remains valid; and

`(3) the licensed dealer records on a document (which, in the case of a sale, shall be the sales receipt) a tracking authorization number provided by the Attorney General or the head of the State agency, as applicable, as evidence that the licensed dealer has verified the validity of the license.'.

SEC. 202. FIREARM RECORDS.
(a) Submission of Sale or Transfer Reports- Not later than 14 days after the date on which the transfer of qualifying firearm is processed by a licensed dealer under section 922(bb) of title 18, United States Code (as added by section 201 of this Act), the licensed dealer shall submit to the Attorney General (or, in the case of a licensed dealer located in a State that has a State firearm licensing and record of sale system certified under section 602 of this Act, to the head of the State agency that administers that system) a report of that transfer, which shall include information relating to--

(1) the manufacturer of the firearm;

(2) the model name or number of the firearm;

(3) the serial number of the firearm;

(4) the date on which the firearm was received by the transferee;

(5) the number of a valid firearm license issued to the transferee under title I of this Act; and

(6) the name and address of the individual who transferred the firearm to the transferee.

(b) Federal Record of Sale System- Not later than 9 months after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Attorney General shall establish and maintain a Federal record of sale system, which shall include the information included in each report submitted to the Attorney General under subsection (a).

(c) Elimination of Prohibition on Establishment of System of Registration- Section 926(a) of title 18, United States Code, is amended by striking the second sentence.

TITLE III--ADDITIONAL PROHIBITIONS
SEC. 301. UNIVERSAL BACKGROUND CHECK REQUIREMENT.
Section 922 of title 18, United States Code, as amended by sections 101 and 201 of this Act, is amended by adding at the end the following:

`(cc) Universal Background Check Requirement-

`(1) REQUIREMENT- Except as provided in paragraph (2), it shall be unlawful for any person other than a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector to sell, deliver, or otherwise transfer a firearm to any person other than such a licensee, unless the transfer is processed through a licensed dealer in accordance with subsection (t).

`(2) EXCEPTION- Paragraph (1) shall not apply to the infrequent transfer of a firearm by gift, bequest, intestate succession or other means by an individual to a parent, child, grandparent, or grandchild of the individual, or to any loan of a firearm for any lawful purpose for not more than 30 days between persons who are personally known to each other.'.

SEC. 302. FAILURE TO MAINTAIN OR PERMIT INSPECTION OF RECORDS.
Section 922 of title 18, United States Code, as amended by sections 101, 201, and 301 of this Act, is amended by adding at the end the following:

`(dd) Failure To Maintain or Permit Inspection of Records- It shall be unlawful for a licensed manufacturer or a licensed dealer to fail to comply with section 202 of Blair Holt's Handgun Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009, or to maintain such records or supply such information as the Attorney General may require in order to ascertain compliance with such Act and the regulations and orders issued under such Act.'.

SEC. 303. FAILURE TO REPORT LOSS OR THEFT OF FIREARM.
Section 922 of title 18, United States Code, as amended by sections 101, 201, 301, and 302 of this Act, is amended by adding at the end the following:

`(ee) Failure To Report Loss or Theft of Firearm- It shall be unlawful for any person who owns a qualifying firearm to fail to report the loss or theft of the firearm to the Attorney General within 72 hours after the loss or theft is discovered.'.

SEC. 304. FAILURE TO PROVIDE NOTICE OF CHANGE OF ADDRESS.
Section 922 of title 18, United States Code, as amended by sections 101, 201, 301, 302, and 303 of this Act, is amended by adding at the end the following:

`(ff) Failure To Provide Notice of Change of Address- It shall be unlawful for any individual to whom a firearm license has been issued under title I of Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009 to fail to report to the Attorney General a change in the address of that individual within 60 days of that change of address.'.

SEC. 305. CHILD ACCESS PREVENTION.
Section 922 of title 18, United States Code, as amended by sections 101, 201, 301, 302, 303, and 304 of this Act, is amended by adding at the end the following:

`(gg) Child Access Prevention-

`(1) DEFINITION OF CHILD- In this subsection, the term `child' means an individual who has not attained the age of 18 years.

`(2) PROHIBITION AND PENALTIES- Except as provided in paragraph (3), it shall be unlawful for any person to keep a loaded firearm, or an unloaded firearm and ammunition for the firearm, any 1 of which has been shipped or transported in interstate or foreign commerce, within any premises that is under the custody or control of that person, if--

`(A) that person--

`(i) knows, or recklessly disregards the risk, that a child is capable of gaining access to the firearm; and

`(ii) either--

`(I) knows, or recklessly disregards the risk, that a child will use the firearm to cause the death of, or serious bodily injury (as defined in section 1365 of this title) to, the child or any other person; or

`(II) knows, or reasonably should know, that possession of the firearm by a child is unlawful under Federal or State law; and

`(B) a child uses the firearm and the use of that firearm causes the death of, or serious bodily injury to, the child or any other person.

`(3) EXCEPTIONS- Paragraph (2) shall not apply if--

`(A) at the time the child obtained access, the firearm was secured with a secure gun storage or safety device;

`(B) the person is a peace officer, a member of the Armed Forces, or a member of the National Guard, and the child obtains the firearm during, or incidental to, the performance of the official duties of the person in that capacity;

`(C) the child uses the firearm in a lawful act of self-defense or defense of 1 or more other persons; or

`(D) the person has no reasonable expectation, based on objective facts and circumstances, that a child is likely to be present on the premises on which the firearm is kept.'.

TITLE IV--ENFORCEMENT
SEC. 401. CRIMINAL PENALTIES.
(a) Failure To Possess Firearm License; Failure To Comply With Qualifying Firearm Sale or Transfer Requirements; Failure To Maintain or Permit Inspection of Records- Section 924(a) of title 18, United States Code, is amended by adding at the end the following:

`(8) Whoever knowingly violates subsection (aa), (bb), or (dd) of section 922 shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both.'.

(b) Failure To Comply With Universal Background Checks; Failure To Timely Report Loss or Theft of a Qualifying Firearm; Failure To Provide Notice of Change of Address- Section 924(a)(5) of such title is amended by striking `(s) or (t)' and inserting `(t), (cc), (ee), or (ff)'.

(c) Child Access Prevention- Section 924(a) of such title, as amended by subsection (a) of this section, is amended by adding at the end the following:

`(9) Whoever violates section 105(a)(2) of Blair Holt's Handgun Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009, knowingly or having reason to believe that the person is prohibited by subsection (g) or (n) of section 922 of title 18, United States Code, from receiving a firearm, shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 10 years, or both.

`(10) Whoever violates section 922(gg) shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both.'.

SEC. 402. REGULATIONS.
(a) In General- The Attorney General shall issue regulations governing the licensing of possessors of qualifying firearms and the recorded sale of qualifying firearms, consistent with this Act and the amendments made by this Act, as the Attorney General determines to be reasonably necessary to reduce or prevent deaths or injuries resulting from qualifying firearms, and to assist law enforcement in the apprehension of owners or users of qualifying firearms used in criminal activity.

(b) Maximum Interval Between Issuance of Proposed and Final Regulation- Not later than 120 days after the date on which the Attorney General issues a proposed regulation under subsection (a) with respect to a matter, the Attorney General shall issue a final regulation with respect to the matter.

SEC. 403. INSPECTIONS.
In order to ascertain compliance with this Act, the amendments made by this Act, and the regulations and orders issued under this Act, the Attorney General may, during regular business hours, enter any place in which firearms or firearm products are manufactured, stored, or held, for distribution in commerce, and inspect those areas where the products are so manufactured, stored, or held.

SEC. 404. ORDERS.
The Attorney General may issue an order prohibiting the sale or transfer of any firearm that the Attorney General finds has been transferred or distributed in violation of this Act, an amendment made by this Act, or a regulation issued under this Act.

SEC. 405. INJUNCTIVE ENFORCEMENT.
The Attorney General may bring an action to restrain any violation of this Act or an amendment made by this Act in the district court of the United States for any district in which the violation has occurred, or in which the defendant is found or transacts business.

TITLE V--FIREARM INJURY INFORMATION AND RESEARCH
SEC. 501. DUTIES OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL.
(a) In General- The Attorney General shall--

(1) establish and maintain a firearm injury information clearinghouse to collect, investigate, analyze, and disseminate data and information relating to the causes and prevention of death and injury associated with firearms;

(2) conduct continuing studies and investigations of firearm-related deaths and injuries; and

(3) collect and maintain current production and sales figures for each licensed manufacturer.

(b) Availability of Information- Periodically, but not less frequently than annually, the Attorney General shall report to the Congress and make available to the public a report on the activities of the Attorney General under subsection (a).

TITLE VI--EFFECT ON STATE LAW
SEC. 601. EFFECT ON STATE LAW.
(a) In General- This Act and the amendments made by this Act may not be construed to preempt any provision of the law of any State or political subdivision of that State, or prevent a State or political subdivision of that State from enacting any provision of law regulating or prohibiting conduct with respect to firearms, except to the extent that the provision of law is inconsistent with any provision of this Act or an amendment made by this Act, and then only to the extent of the inconsistency.

(b) Rule of Interpretation- A provision of State law is not inconsistent with this Act or an amendment made by this Act if the provision imposes a regulation or prohibition of greater scope or a penalty of greater severity than a corresponding prohibition or penalty imposed by this Act or an amendment made by this Act.

SEC. 602. CERTIFICATION OF STATE FIREARM LICENSING SYSTEMS AND STATE FIREARM RECORD OF SALE SYSTEMS.
Upon a written request of the chief executive officer of a State, the Attorney General may certify--

(1) a firearm licensing system established by a State, if State law requires the system to satisfy the requirements applicable to the Federal firearm licensing system established under title I; or

(2) a firearm record of sale system established by a State, if State law requires the head of the State agency that administers the system to submit to the Federal firearm record of sale system established under section 202(b) a copy of each report submitted to the head of the agency under section 202(a), within 7 days after receipt of the report.

TITLE VII--RELATIONSHIP TO OTHER LAW
SEC. 701. SUBORDINATION TO ARMS EXPORT CONTROL ACT.
In the event of any conflict between any provision of this Act or an amendment made by this Act, and any provision of the Arms Export Control Act (22 U.S.C. 2751), the provision of the Arms Export Control Act shall control.

TITLE VIII--INAPPLICABILITY
SEC. 801. INAPPLICABILITY TO GOVERNMENTAL AUTHORITIES.
This Act and the amendments made by this Act shall not apply to any department or agency of the United States, of a State, or of a political subdivision of a State, or to any official conduct of any officer or employee of such a department or agency.

TITLE IX--EFFECTIVE DATE
SEC. 901. EFFECTIVE DATE OF AMENDMENTS.
The amendments made by this Act shall take effect 1 year after the date of the enactment of this Act.
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cheri1122

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My prediction is that there's gonna be a lot more licensed dealers in the near future.
And it won't do a thing to stop the bad guys from stealing lawful weapons, either.
Do we smell a new revenue source for the authorities in the offing, or what?
 

chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
The number of dealers will probably increase thats for sure, but the avg gun owner will just, well, they will just go about life with what they have and you will still have face to face sale of guns bought before this BS goes into affect.

The medical deal will also kill any chance of alot of people from becoming owners , let alone a dealer. This was tried before about 2 yrs ago if i remember right. Hell if you came back from nam or lost your job and your dr gave you a script for anti depressants, 10 yrs ago and you hadn't take them in 9 yrs, you went SOL, no licence for you.....

Its all BS as it is now, add this and you are make regular joe 6 pack law abiding gun owner a criminal.

No gun law is going to stop the Bad guys, thats part of being a Bad guy! they will always still get guns and ammo... All any gun law does is punish the law abiding.....
 

cheri1122

Veteran Expediter
Driver
So why not become a licensed 'dealer' yourself? How hard can it be?
I think your comment on the medical situation is unwarranted conjecture, frankly - the requirement for all mental health records will keep some pretty antisocial types from buying weapons, and IMO, that's a GOOD thing. We have to be fingerprinted and background checked to haul hazmat, why not to own a deadly weapon?
And Chef, can you please explain why anyone would want to own an assault weapon in the first place?
 

chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
Ok, 1st a semi auto 9 mm glock that a woman by be carrying is NOT an assualt weapon, but wiuld be banned becasue it has a detachable magazine, and the list of ban weapons is thousands long. As for the med requirement being conjecture, no, that was one of thr reason given in testimony when a restriction for med records was tried previously, that exact example, thats way I used it..And further, mental health is already a requirement for having a CCW in most states, now it will be a requirement to OWN a gun for self defense, Not in my house... You open the door for FED abuse, and they will sooner or later get it down to "if you take asprin for a headache, we need to be sure you don't have a mental condition...sorry, ain't happening..

As for having to be fingerprinted to haul haz mat, i'll agree, please show me in Constitution where hauling haz mat is covered. Then also show me where in the Constitution it states I need to have a licence to own a gun, i have to register any weapons i own and where it says that I have to be fingerprinted and jump through the FEDS hoops the fed wants to carry a gun under my shirt... oh OPEN CARRY is fully legal with NO permit in more then a few states, it use to be in ALL states before the liberal gun grabbers got in the way of the law abiding.. 2A states I can bear arms, and that simply backs up my inalienable right to defend myself and my family with the arms, nothing else.

My inalienable right 1st, then 2A are the only licence I need or will ever have...

It is quickly becoming time to "prune" the tree of liberty...As Thomas Jefferson said:

Quote from Thomas Jefferson


"What country can preserve its liberties,
if its rulers are not warned from time to time that
this people preserve the spirit of resistance?
Let them take up arms."

Our constitution is in place for the people to control the government, not the other way around......
 
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cheri1122

Veteran Expediter
Driver
I don't see the government as denying your (or my) right to bear arms, but simply ensuring that those who do are required to be law abiding citizens without severe mental impairments. Yes, it's a PITA, but so is nearly everything anymore, isn't it? (I had to pay for a license for my DOG last week!)
And I still fail to see why anyone should need assault weapons - what purpose do they serve?
 

chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
Cheri, if you took the time to look at what the government calls an assualt weapon, maybe you would understand. As for the government requiring information and registration of guns and gun owners, take a look at history.. in most all instances registration leads to confiscation.... it is unlwaful and unconstitutional, why do you think they continue to ADD laws? Because the founders set the law and as time goes on the GOVERNMENT feels the need to protect us from ourselves!! BS.

Has has been pointed out in this forum several times , Assault weapons can and are only bought and sold in very limited numbers in this country by a even more limited number of select Gun Dealers. No assault weapon as been sold over the counter in this country in years and NONE have been used ( well the brady group will tell you different) in a death in this country. This "assault weapon ban" is nothing but a bunch of liberals that know **** near nothing about guns fixings something that isn't broken.

As I said, a small glock 19 (as are most all semi automatic weapons) a gun that any woman could carry in her purse for self protection is on the list, simply because it has a detachable magazine.....

Oh and i have owned more dogs then i can count, i have NEVER bought a dog licence NEVER.... And done of them have been to a vet either...Country living has its benefits...

And one more thing, as i read this BS, I am getting the impression that this will be Retro active, within 2 yrs of passage, you will have to register all guns you own, even those owned BEFORE the passage.......
 
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LDB

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
This is already way longer than my patience and blood pressure will sustain reading. The crux is MY Constitution says we are allowed to keep and bear arms without infringement. All this is infringements. I know of two people who own assault weapons. They paid a HUGE fee to get it as well as ongoing fees/taxes for the special tax stamp to own it. The "assault weapon" is a small part you can fit in a pill bottle. It can be installed in any of a specific model of semi-automatic rifle and turn it into a fully automatic rifle. The great big gun isn't the "assault weapon", the little bitty part is. Until people start correctly identifying things like "assault weapons" etc. we'll never win this battle against evil.

It's the whole discrimination thing all over again. We're the government and we're going to institute forced discrimination against the most capable and qualified. We know nobody will hold with that so we'll lie and call it affirmative action. Whoopee, now millions of FOOLS (that's for whoever it was that doesn't like me correctly identifying the problem people) will support it. Now let's do the same thing with firearms. Let's inflate negative statistics by labeling anyone under 21 a child and including all gang involved shootings in children killed by firearms. ARRGHH.. I can't stand anymore. Figure the rest out on your own.
 

Bob and Hooligan

Veteran Expediter
Charter Member
I personally had enough of guns when I was in the army. It is funny that the desire for a lot of guns is most common in the very young or old.

War is more fun when you are either too young or too old to be involved in it.

Road Hooligan
 

chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
Gee, I spent my time in the south china sea in a country called viet nam, im 50, and ill hold on to my guns. My sons have been in and served in the ME, they will hold on to their guns..

Our inalienable rights give us the right to defend ourselves our founding dad made it clear that in time we would have to take our country back from a tyrannical government and they spoke of it often.

As for being to old to fight at war, age isn't the deal for me, they won't take me with pins plates ans screws holding me together. Sure i can go be a clerk, sorry that isn't what i was trained for. So ill ignore your comment that only those too young or too old to be involved.......

You don't want a gun, thats fine, but don't try and restrict mine or millions of others right to bear them as is our right...
 

chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
Actually i was quite calm as I wrote that. You see (well im sure you don't) for most people its about the government grabbing power from the people , infringing on our liberty and continuing to erode our Constitutional rights,,, but hey , wants the infringment of a Constitutional right, especially one you don't seem to care about....
 

Mdbtyhtr

Expert Expediter
My issue is that there are enough laws on the books already regarding weapons. They are not enforced by the judiciary. States that have mandatory 5 year sentences for mere possession are not enforced, look at Washington, DC, where guns were banned and the murder rate never dropped, but they refuse to acknowledge that. There must be a penalty for ones actions against the law or others, and until there is one, there will be no deterrent to crime. You don't stop crime by regulating the law abiding citizens, you enforce the laws you have to the fullest extent of the law. You may send a kid away for awhile, but that action just might save his life.

Scott
 

chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
Moot, actually it should have read "i am in my 50's", i was born 52, grad highschool in 71, lottery # wa 16 , i was there in 73-74

guess i wasn't as calam as i thought...:D
 

cheri1122

Veteran Expediter
Driver
I would certainly agree that the government already has way too many regulations in place to 'protect us from ourselves' (logging being a good example), and that their campaigns to enact such laws feature misleading characterizations designed to inflame the emotions of the general public (the 'born alive' issue being a good example). There's nobody better at the art of hiding the actual agenda in high minded language (the Patriot Act, hmm?) so yeah, I can see where you're coming from. And as long as we, the people, get bent out of shape ONLY over those rights that we personally cherish, it'll continue to work.
Having said that, there are weapons no ordinary citizen has any legitimate need for, and citizens who have no business owning ANY weapon at all - so, what should be done?
 

chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
Cheri worte:

so, what should be done?

The government should follow the Constitution urge (PURGE) the worthless laws and then enforce what laws ARE ALREADY on the books, deemed to be right within the Constitution. That is what the government is suppose to do....
 
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Moot

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Owner/Operator
When someone younger than me states they were in Vietnam or at Woodstock I question it.
 
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