The Trump Card...

ATeam

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There is no evidence Pence and Biden knew they had classified documents among their many papers. There is substantial evidence Trump did know. That is one of the many differences in these cases.
 
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Turtle

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There is no evidence Pence and Biden knew they had classified documents among their many papers. There is substantial evidence Trump did know. That is one of the many differences in these cases.
Soooooo, Trump, as President, was intentional, and Biden and Pence, as Vice Presidents, were reckless? Is that what in the so-tell you are saying?
 

danthewolf00

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Biden has had 45 plus years in government office and much of it with out any security clearance to have the files he had in his possession.....trump as president had the security clearance because he was president.....biden is looking at theft,treason, and his lawyers are looking at treason to for looking at the documents without the needed security clearances.
It does not matter that they contacted the doj or archives. Biden still had documents that should never have been in his home much less a office at a university....it is all about who had the security clearance to HAVE the documents in the first place and second that the documents were stored in a scif.
 
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muttly

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Trump’s Mar a lago residence was raided back in August. This is now January. Wouldn’t the first thing for anyone like Biden and Pence to think was do I have documents as well, and to check? Yet, we don't hear anything about it until months later.
 

danthewolf00

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Trump’s Mar a lago residence was raided back in August. This is now January. Wouldn’t the first thing for anyone like Biden and Pence to think was do I have documents as well, and to check? Yet, we don't hear anything about it until months later.
Of course because it is after midterms......
 
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ATeam

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Truth Social Update

"Both platforms were powerful tools for his earlier campaigns; he had more than 35 million followers on Facebook and 88.7 million on Twitter. On Truth Social, which was set up in late 2021, he has just 4.2 million followers. His posts there have limited visibility beyond his most hard-core supporters." (Source)

In addition to Trump's pathetic numbers compared to what he had on Facebook and Twitter, things are looking grim for Truth Social for another reason. It's stock price is at an all-time low because Trump is said to be ready to let an agreement expire that obligated him to post on Truth Social before he posted elsewhere.
 
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ATeam

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Soooooo, Trump, as President, was intentional, and Biden and Pence, as Vice Presidents, were reckless? Is that what in the so-tell you are saying?
I'm not sure how to properly characterize Pence's and Biden's apparent mishandling of the documents found in their possession. We'll know more about that as investigations proceed and more information becomes available. Reckless may be the appropriate term, or not. It depends on what comes out. Intentional is indeed a proper term for Trump. He failed to turn everything over when asked. He failed to do so when subpoenaed. He clearly knew he had them. Yep. Intentional.
 

ATeam

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Trump’s Mar a lago residence was raided back in August. This is now January. Wouldn’t the first thing for anyone like Biden and Pence to think was do I have documents as well, and to check? Yet, we don't hear anything about it until months later.
Good point. A valid question to raise.
 

danthewolf00

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Trump was president when the documents was in his possession and HE had clearance to have them....
Biden didn't have the clearance till he became president which did not absolve him of having the documents BEFORE becoming president.
It is all going to be about who had what security clearances to have the documents and HOW the documents were secured(scif).
Trump had both the security clearance and a scif.....biden didn't have anything not even a scif.
Senator biden did not have security clearance.
Vice president Biden did not have security clearance.
But president Biden did but had no scif set up anywhere.
 
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ATeam

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Trump was president when the documents was in his possession and HE had clearance to have them....
Biden didn't have the clearance till he became president which did not absolve him of having the documents BEFORE becoming president.
It is all going to be about who had what security clearances to have the documents and HOW the documents were secured(scif).
Trump had both the security clearance and a scif.....biden didn't have anything not even a scif.
Senator biden did not have security clearance.
Vice president Biden did not have security clearance.
But president Biden did but had no scif set up anywhere.
Nice to see you have it all figured out.
 

Turtle

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Reckless may be the appropriate term, or not.
Oh, it's reckless. Call it irresponsible, if you like. But those documents were found in unauthorized locations without proper security.
Intentional is indeed a proper term for Trump.
Well, yeah. Of course. He conducted presidential business at Mar-a-Lago, oftentimes with classified materials.
 

danthewolf00

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Oh, it's reckless. Call it irresponsible, if you like. But those documents were found in unauthorized locations without proper security.

Well, yeah. Of course. He conducted presidential business at Mar-a-Lago, oftentimes with classified materials.
People keep their tax paperwork in more secure locations than Biden kept those classified documents.
 
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