Is the massacre of 147 Christians in Kenya perspective enough?
We're talking Christians in the country we live in. Any massacre anywhere, for any reason, is a tragedy, but it is not relevant to this discussion.
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We're talking Christians in the country we live in. Any massacre anywhere, for any reason, is a tragedy, but it is not relevant to this discussion.
Does beheading and other forms of execution count? Just for being Christians? Unbelievable.
People who pray. It's a form of meditation for them. When they have to make a huge life decision, they pray because want guidance to do the right thing, and make the right choice. Sometimes that choice isn't clear to them without praying. It puts them in a calm state of mind so they can make their decision with a kind heart.
I think it shows you choose to ridicule people who think different than you, rather ironic don't you think?
Religions ..Christianity ( especially ) have perfected persecution of people who are not like them..or think like them..
Yes it's appalling when someone is bullied whether they are Christian or gay.
Perspective is someone being bullied because a religious person doesn't want to participate in a gay marriage and are threatened with violence because of it. Two wrongs don't make a right.
As always trying to lump all into one category is rather fruitless. Not even sure what it has to do with the statement you I qouted unless your attempting to justify it.
That is my take on it as well. A lot of Christian bashing going on. The liberal media just loves to find any opportunity to denigrate them. The worst thing the media can dig up about them regarding the Indiana law, is some pizza owner who said they would serve gays in their establishment, but wouldn't participate in their wedding plans because of their religious objections. The utter vitriol that this establishment endured, and nearly put out of business, due to their religious beliefs were appalling. Fortunately, many observed what an injustice this was becoming to this family,and came to their financial aid. Many Christian bashers will say that the people who donated to them are just a bunch of bigots themselves coming to the aid of another bigot, instead of seeing people come to the aid of someone who was unfairly bullied . What the Christian haters don't realize is, if a gay pizzeria owner were being threatened, and in risk of losing their business by bullies, many of those same Christians would be coming to their financial aid as well, regardless of their disagreement about gay marriage that many of them have.
It is NOT like Jim Crow laws. Gays aren't treated like second class citizens. We are talking about some people who have a religious objection in being FORCED to participate in proceedings for gay wedding.
No, I don't think. I don't ridicule people who think differently, but people who make statements about something that is clearly false? Fair game. Unless, of course, I think [or suspect] they are mentally ill, if they say something ridiculous, I can say it's ridiculous. And I stand by my comment: the money didn't come from God, and she knows it - or ought to.
"Threatened with violence"? [And let's don't forget the outcome: nearly a million dollars in donations, for their troubles], and you think that's equivalent to being dragged to death behind a pickup truck, because a couple good ol boys don't like gay people? Being beat up for walking down the street? Being arrested for loving someone, in the privacy of your bedroom? Being thrown out of your own family, at age 16, 17?
Get real.
paullud
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You are 100% correct with that first sentence. I couldn't agree more.
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I said each is appalling whether they are gay or Christian threatened with violence. You seem to be ok with Christians being threatened, and they were threatened .
One example:
http://www.theindychannel.com/news/...stigation-for-threatening-tweet-at-pizza-shop
Ought to know it from the all knowing Cheri cola. The lady thanked her god for all the generosity from people who came to her aid and you have a problem with that. Unreal.
Like I said before, many of those same people would help the gay pizzeria owner if they were threatened with losing their business and threatened with violence. It's what Christians do. They don't believe in bullies.
Divine intervention. Haha
There is a very simple way to know it's false: the money was donated through a GoFundMe account, with the people donating leaving comments. None of them were from God, much less all of them, so thanking God for the money is giving credit to what she believes, instead of the facts that refute it right in front of her nose. And people accept that as reasonable?
I don't get annoyed when people thank God for saving them from a flaming wreck, because there isn't any clear proof that He didn't. In this case, it's a person saying something we can all see is not true, and everyone is ok with it, that bothers me. The same way people claiming God told them to do something bothers me, because I have to question their grasp on reality.
She thanked God for the money - not the people who donated it.
Christians don't believe in bullies? Maybe you can explain the ones who protest at Women's Clinics, and set up live web cams to film women going in? And the ones who send letters informing a commercial management firm that a prospective tenant for one of their properties is going to attract protesters [namely themselves] and disturb other tenants?
And the ones who hold up photos of babies outside, saying SHAME ON YOU! - they don't believe in bullies, huh?
If you want to belive that someone had a hand in me hitting the wrong picture when there are starving children. .war...droughts....that's pretty selfish. .