The southern border.

Ragman

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muttly
Why a laugh? Is it funny that even the Rand Corporation (a conservative think tank) supports my position?
 
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danthewolf00

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Israel has walls and the terrorists have to dig under the wall to get in....
People are going to get in it just makes it harder for large groups to just walk in....
 

coalminer

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So what do you suggest we do with the vast majority of people who come here illegally, the ones who fly in or walk up to the border and come in on a tourist visa and never leave?
 

Pilgrim

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Why a laugh? Is it funny that even the Rand Corporation (a conservative think tank) supports my position?
Try reading your own article. It does not support your position that "walls don't work", which is an erroneous black or white proposition. "Some were arguably quite successful, others less so." That point is made early in the article, and it's obvious to anyone capable of rational thought that walls have to be supplemented by additional strategy, which used to be the policy for our southern border.

We also need troops and surveillance to stop the flood of illegal invaders that are pouring into our country, not the Democrats' open door policy that makes us the world's homeless shelter. The 3000 breaches in the past two years is a direct result of Biden's order to abandon the wall, not a failure of the wall itself. We could slow this incursion to a trickle if the wall was completed and proper defensive policies that deny sanctuary were in effect. We should also work with Mexico to keep these hoards from getting to the border in the first place.
In summary, the article also states:

"As long as life in the United States offers potential migrants more opportunities and fewer perceived dangers than their home countries, illegal immigration will likely persist.
If a border wall provides the political space for addressing these more systemic problems, then it may still be a worthwhile investment."


In other words, we need to stop all the free food, housing, health care, education, citizenship promises, etc, that encourage anyone and everyone - including criminals and terrorists - to come here. This country has always had effective policies to manage legal immigration and political asylum, and we need to go back to those methods instead of welcoming chaos. The wall along with other barriers should be part of that plan.
 

Pilgrim

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The Berlin wall was torn down because east Germany finally mellowed out and became friendly.
Actually, the Berlin wall came down because the Soviet Union collapsed and Marxism/communism failed in East Germany and other eastern European countries. Note the irony of these illegal invaders coming into the USA to indulge in the Marxist policies being promised by Biden's Democrat party.
 
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Ragman

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Try reading your own article. It does not support your position that "walls don't work", which is an erroneous black or white proposition. "Some were arguably quite successful, others less so." That point is made early in the article, and it's obvious to anyone capable of rational thought that walls have to be supplemented by additional strategy, which used to be the policy for our southern border.

We also need troops and surveillance to stop the flood of illegal invaders that are pouring into our country, not the Democrats' open door policy that makes us the world's homeless shelter. The 3000 breaches in the past two years is a direct result of Biden's order to abandon the wall, not a failure of the wall itself. We could slow this incursion to a trickle if the wall was completed and proper defensive policies that deny sanctuary were in effect. We should also work with Mexico to keep these hoards from getting to the border in the first place.
In summary, the article also states:

"As long as life in the United States offers potential migrants more opportunities and fewer perceived dangers than their home countries, illegal immigration will likely persist.
If a border wall provides the political space for addressing these more systemic problems, then it may still be a worthwhile investment."


In other words, we need to stop all the free food, housing, health care, education, citizenship promises, etc, that encourage anyone and everyone - including criminals and terrorists - to come here. This country has always had effective policies to manage legal immigration and political asylum, and we need to go back to those methods instead of welcoming chaos. The wall along with other barriers should be part of that plan.
Simply put, walls don't work.

There is much much more in addition to a wall, yet the only thing ever proposed is a wall that Mexico will pay for. (Sic)
 
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