In response to message #2
>IF it is under 250 miles one way it would not be considered
>as a days out, it must be over that mileage inorder to
>claim it.
OK, I pick up a load in Cleveland, OH and deliver in Saline, MI. I'm 171 miles from home, so I go to the Pilot at x 3 on US-23 to wait for my next load.
I pull in go in and take a shower and go to the local grill and order dinner. I have 2 hours left on my 14 so I call in and stay the night. Get up and go have bkfast.
Are you telling me by this reg. that none of the above cost of my living is deductible because I'm less than 250 miles from home?
If I followed there guide I would have to head home (oh I couldn't make it cause I could only drive about 100 miles till my 14 ran out) to get dinner and a shower and bkfast the next morning. I wouldn't make it so then I'd be stuck in Saginaw, MI and I still couldn't eat or shower cause I'm closer to home.
Ah and that's not the half of it.
Even if I made it home and did all I had to do and re-set my clock...waiting for a call for a load...I wouldn't get it cause I'm too far away from the normal freight lines to be there in less than an hour to pick-up.
If in fact I have this right, (somehow I think I've screwed it up) what would a person do? Especially in the Michigan area where you never know if or when you will get any loads.
I know your just the messenger.
But you know what always happens to the messenger, don't you.
Thanks for the words.
THORNAPPLE,
Your example is mainly for a local driver, not for someone who stays out for more than 1 load at a time, who returns back to his home to wait for another load. that is why I stated that under 250 miles would not be deductible, Your meals, showers, are not considered under the 14 hour rule, that is when you are off duty,Line 1, and not off duty not driving. Off duty not driving is for anything that would have to due with the load itself.like loading at shipper time spent, unloading at reciever, and possibly unloading the load your self. that is part of the 14 hours.(line 4) not what you are stating. that is full off duty line, and on line 1 of the log book.
Line 3 is the actual driving time, and line 2 is the sleeper.
Basically what you were figuring was for over the road drivers. I know you get short hauls, but I did not know what your situation was at the time of question.
Sorry for the misstatement.
Frank
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