So because Trump says the gasoline would be cheaper if he was president, you believe him. I explained my opinion why cant you explain yours?
President O'Biden
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danthewolf00
Veteran Expediter
Because trump would not have shut down the xl pipeline extension or pulled permits to stop drilling for oil.....we did tell you all that Biden was a bad idea.....
Biden declared early in his campaign (2019) that he would "get rid of fossil fuels". He's following through on this promise by reinstating regulatory red tape that Trump had eliminated, denying permits to drill and creating an environment that discourages investment in investment in refinery expansion.
The last significant oil refinery in the US was built in 1977. Many smaller ones closed during the covid pandemic and haven't been able to re-open, as we head into recession due to the economic mismanagement of this hapless administration.
Both of those items have no impact on todays price, 5 years from now yes, but not today.
If I would have heard him say that I would have been more inclined to vote for him, but I dont recall him every saying that. We need to figure out how to move beyond fossil fuels for things like transportation where they thermal efficiency of an internal combustion engine is so low. Natural gas for heating is fine as long as its being used in a newer furnace that over 90% efficient.
I have seen that being said before but I have never seen where that has been proven, if there is a list of refineries that have been closed dont you think there would be a list of them somewhere to back up that statement?
So I did some research on the refineries that have closed in the last couple of years, this report shows the ones that have closed (or switched to other products)
First on the list:
The Philadelphia Energy Solutions refinery in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania: 335,000 b/cd
There was a major accident which caused the refinery to be closed, is this Joe Bidens fault? No
The Shell refinery in Convent, Louisiana: 211,146 b/cd
www.shell.us
Shell made the difficult decision to shut down the refinery in November 2020. The decision is part of the company’s global strategy to invest in a core set of uniquely integrated manufacturing sites that are also strategically positioned for the transition to a low-carbon future.
Is this Joe Bidens fault? No
The Tesoro (Marathon) refinery in Martinez, California: 161,000 b/cd
Marathon Petroleum Corporation (NYSE: MPC) announced today that its Board of Directors has approved plans to convert its Martinez, California, refinery into a renewable fuels manufacturing facility.
Is this Joe Bidens fault? No
The HollyFrontier refinery in Cheyenne, Wyoming: 48,000 b/cd
www.hollyfrontier.com
HollyFrontier Corporation (NYSE: HFC) (“HollyFrontier”) today announced that its Board of Directors has approved a plan to convert the Cheyenne Refinery to renewable diesel production and to construct a pre-treatment unit (“PTU”) located at the Artesia Refinery.
Is this Joe Bidens fault? No
The Western Refining refinery in Gallup, New Mexico: 27,000 b/cd
www.krqe.com
The refinery in Gallup is shutting down for good. It halted operations when the pandemic first hit New Mexico. Now Marathon Petroleum, the company that runs the oil refinery, just told their 200 plus employees they are permanently closing the facility by the end of the year.
Is this Joe Bidens fault? No
The Dakota Prairie refinery in Dickinson, North Dakota: 19,000 b/cd
www.ogj.com
Marathon Petroleum Corp. (MPC) has fully commissioned a grassroots renewable diesel production unit built as part of the operator’s conversion of its former conventional crude oil refinery in Dickinson, ND, into a renewables manufacturing site.
Is this Joe Bidens fault? No
After all the locations are being converted to bio diesel, that will help the trucking industry.
But I guess since cheeto says its Bidens fault you will still believe the lies.....
First on the list:
The Philadelphia Energy Solutions refinery in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania: 335,000 b/cd
There was a major accident which caused the refinery to be closed, is this Joe Bidens fault? No
The Shell refinery in Convent, Louisiana: 211,146 b/cd
Shell Convent
Shell Convent is located directly next to the Mississippi River. Uniquely positioned midway between Baton Rouge and New Orleans, Shell’s Convent facility sits on 4,400 acres in south Louisiana.
www.shell.us
Shell made the difficult decision to shut down the refinery in November 2020. The decision is part of the company’s global strategy to invest in a core set of uniquely integrated manufacturing sites that are also strategically positioned for the transition to a low-carbon future.
Is this Joe Bidens fault? No
The Tesoro (Marathon) refinery in Martinez, California: 161,000 b/cd
Marathon Petroleum Corporation (NYSE: MPC) announced today that its Board of Directors has approved plans to convert its Martinez, California, refinery into a renewable fuels manufacturing facility.
Is this Joe Bidens fault? No
The HollyFrontier refinery in Cheyenne, Wyoming: 48,000 b/cd
HollyFrontier Announces Expansion of Renewables Business
Renewables business expected to produce over 200 million gallons per year of renewable diesel with feedstock flexibility Conversion of the Cheyenne Refinery to renewable diesel production Construction of pre-treatment unit at the Artesia Refinery HollyFrontier Corporation (NYSE: HFC)...
HollyFrontier Corporation (NYSE: HFC) (“HollyFrontier”) today announced that its Board of Directors has approved a plan to convert the Cheyenne Refinery to renewable diesel production and to construct a pre-treatment unit (“PTU”) located at the Artesia Refinery.
Is this Joe Bidens fault? No
The Western Refining refinery in Gallup, New Mexico: 27,000 b/cd
Oil refinery in Gallup closing indefinitely
GALLUP, N.M. (KRQE) – The refinery in Gallup is shutting down for good. It halted operations when the pandemic first hit New Mexico. Now Marathon Petroleum, the company that runs the oil refin…
www.krqe.com
The refinery in Gallup is shutting down for good. It halted operations when the pandemic first hit New Mexico. Now Marathon Petroleum, the company that runs the oil refinery, just told their 200 plus employees they are permanently closing the facility by the end of the year.
Is this Joe Bidens fault? No
The Dakota Prairie refinery in Dickinson, North Dakota: 19,000 b/cd
Marathon completes startup of North Dakota renewable diesel refinery
Marathon Petroleum Corp. (MPC) has fully commissioned a grassroots renewable diesel production unit built as part of the operator’s conversion of its former conventional crude...
Marathon Petroleum Corp. (MPC) has fully commissioned a grassroots renewable diesel production unit built as part of the operator’s conversion of its former conventional crude oil refinery in Dickinson, ND, into a renewables manufacturing site.
Is this Joe Bidens fault? No
After all the locations are being converted to bio diesel, that will help the trucking industry.
But I guess since cheeto says its Bidens fault you will still believe the lies.....
He's said it multiple times and his position on fossil fuels is common knowledge.
Flashback – Joe Biden: 'I Guarantee You We’re Going to End Fossil Fuels'
Then-candidate Joe Biden said in 2019 that he would "end" the fossil fuel industry in the United States.
www.breitbart.com
danthewolf00
Veteran Expediter
There are two different things in play right now in the energy markets - closures for various reasons which include disasters and non-profitability, and the lack of long-term investment due to federal policies that will be in place for at least the next two years. This also affects expansion of existing refining facilities and crude oil production. Biden is openly hostile to both of these, and his completely daft "green new deal" direction has put us in a place where petroleum products are becoming cost prohibitive while green energy is nowhere near being affordable, dependable or plentiful.
"Following on your campaign promise to 'end fossil fuel,' consider just some of the policy and investment signals being sent by various federal agencies and allied state governments to the market about our refining industry," API's Mike Sommers and AFPM's Chet Thomspon wrote to Biden, listing the administration's stringent light-duty fuel economy standards and the SEC's climate-related risk disclosure proposal as efforts that have discouraged investment.
Others have also noted government policies favoring renewable fuel production, behind which the Biden administration just threw its full weight by finalizing record blending requirements under the renewable fuel standard, as well as green investment principles, for driving investment away from oil refining."
Regulation, COVID-19, and giant explosions: Why the US is short on oil refining - Washington Examiner
President Joe Biden is asking oil refiners to manufacture more fuel and help him tame record gas prices, but the shortage of refining capacity holding them back was years in the making and can't be quickly remedied. Biden's letters to seven of the nation's largest refinery operators solicited...
www.washingtonexaminer.com
“The Liberal World Order”.
Total out of touch lunacy by The Left.
Total out of touch lunacy by The Left.
Just when we think it can't get any worse, the Biden Administration reaches a new level of duplicity: selling our SPR oil to China. This should really ease our pain at the pump.
www.breitbart.com
Report: Biden Sold Nearly 1M Barrels from U.S. Reserve to CCP-Owned Oil Company Linked to Hunter Biden Firm
Biden’s administration sold 950,000 barrels of oil from the U.S. Reserve to a Chinese state-owned gas company that has financial ties to a private equity firm cofounded by Hunter Biden.
www.breitbart.com
danthewolf00
Veteran Expediter
For a grand total of 6 million barrels to over sea countries.....Just when we think it can't get any worse, the Biden Administration reaches a new level of duplicity: selling our SPR oil to China. This should really ease our pain at the pump.
Report: Biden Sold Nearly 1M Barrels from U.S. Reserve to CCP-Owned Oil Company Linked to Hunter Biden Firm
Biden’s administration sold 950,000 barrels of oil from the U.S. Reserve to a Chinese state-owned gas company that has financial ties to a private equity firm cofounded by Hunter Biden.
But he begs OPEC to produce more oil.
Please explain how this is Bidens fault? Is he supposed to sit there and make sure the oil goes to Americans? This is how the oil market works.
Unbelievable.
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Replace Biden with Trump and you'll have your answer as you would then be splainin to us exactly how it was his fault.
danthewolf00
Veteran Expediter
danthewolf00
Veteran Expediter
Exactly - the SPR oil is there to alleviate disruption in US oil and gas supplies, not to sell to our adversaries. Biden controls the SPR releases, not the oil companies. We're not talking about the open market.
Here is the most important part of that article:
Some conservatives conceded the point - at least in part. "Once oil is released from the Strategic Petroleum Reserves, current U.S. law allows for companies that are registered to purchase it to then sell it on the market, including to adversaries like China," said Heritage Foundation energy analyst Jack Spencer.
But you sheep will still blame Biden for it.
danthewolf00
Veteran Expediter
Well you still blame trump for stuff....1.7 years after leaving office.