So, approximately how much would you add to the .65 to make a good profit? Is there anywhere on the Web I could look to find a for this kind of thing or could you give me a good formula to use. I have spoken to a carrier but I've researched this company and it seems that they are being or have been sued by their o/o's because of different reasons. I'm not sure I want to get involved with them. They have routes they say that can be negotiated. You understand that...I don't. Being new to this is tough but I want to find out every thing I can before I jump in. I have a couple of printers that I have delivered 100 miles or so far and got paid $200 plus gas. I can find little jobs like this but I have to try to be competetive with the rates. That's why I asked.