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Muslim Jesse Curtis Morton jailed over South Park death threats

EnglishLady

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A Muslim who admitted posting internet threats against the creators of the South Park TV show has been sentenced to 11 years and six months in prison.

Jesse Curtis Morton, 33, who founded the now-offline Revolution Muslim website, had already admitted using it for al-Qaeda propaganda.

He conspired against South Park's writers after the show depicted the prophet Muhammad wearing a bear suit.

Co-accused Zachary Chesser received a 25-year sentence in February.

Chesser, a 20-year-old American Muslim convert, was handed a stiffer sentence as he had twice tried to travel to Somalia to join al-Shabab, which the US designates as a terrorist group.

The pair used their website to deliver thinly veiled threats against the creators of South Park, a popular satirical cartoon.

Morton, a Muslim convert from New York, offered an apology for his conduct, saying he had "contributed to a clash of civilizations" by espousing a violent ideology.

His lawyer had sought a prison term of less than five years.

But prosecutor Gordon Kromberg said Morton, arrested last year in Morocco, had abused his free speech protections by inciting murder.

Summing up Morton's views, Mr Kromberg said: "Make a TV show we don't like - we'll slit your throat. Draw a cartoon we don't like - we'll slit your throat."
 
skyraider

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EnglishLady said:
BBC

A Muslim who admitted posting internet threats against the creators of the South Park TV show has been sentenced to 11 years and six months in prison.

Jesse Curtis Morton, 33, who founded the now-offline Revolution Muslim website, had already admitted using it for al-Qaeda propaganda.

He conspired against South Park's writers after the show depicted the prophet Muhammad wearing a bear suit.

Co-accused Zachary Chesser received a 25-year sentence in February.

Chesser, a 20-year-old American Muslim convert, was handed a stiffer sentence as he had twice tried to travel to Somalia to join al-Shabab, which the US designates as a terrorist group.

The pair used their website to deliver thinly veiled threats against the creators of South Park, a popular satirical cartoon.

Morton, a Muslim convert from New York, offered an apology for his conduct, saying he had "contributed to a clash of civilizations" by espousing a violent ideology.

His lawyer had sought a prison term of less than five years.

But prosecutor Gordon Kromberg said Morton, arrested last year in Morocco, had abused his free speech protections by inciting murder.

Summing up Morton's views, Mr Kromberg said: "Make a TV show we don't like - we'll slit your throat. Draw a cartoon we don't like - we'll slit your throat."
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How did that happen , thought Muslims in this country got special laws like their Sherraiirea law thingie they appeal to. Some Judge must have been for the American law this time, whats this USA coming to. I was under the impression that Muslims got a free ride.
 
AMonger

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"HOW DARE YOU CALL US VIOLENT? I'LL KILL YOU!"
There's an annual Draw Mohamed Day, instituted in response to the fanatical, 7th century cavemen's violent attacks on others who have drawn their false prophet. I participate, though I confess I don't actually draw my own but re-post the best of others. Unfortunately, the moderators might not allow them. Maybe I'll post them on the next Draw Mohamed Day and see if they're allowed.
 
Turtle

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I think it's interesting how so many Christians can get so offended when they think something is sacrilegious or blasphemy, but have no problems insulting other religions in the same manner, considering the fact that the New Testament is fundamentally based on the Golden Rule. Interesting, indeed.
 
paullud

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Turtle said:
I think it's interesting how so many Christians can get so offended when they think something is sacrilegious or blasphemy, but have no problems insulting other religions in the same manner, considering the fact that the New Testament is fundamentally based on the Golden Rule. Interesting, indeed.
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If it just upset them and their response didn't involve violence, threats of murder, or actual murder I would respect their outrage.

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Turtle

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Oh, I don't question at all that such things are often justified, one way or the other, I just find it interesting that people can always come up with a reason to allow whatever exceptions to the Golden Rule they want. It's extraordinarily convenient how malleable and versatile some religions can be, and at the exact times you need it ti be.
 
AMonger

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Turtle said:
I think it's interesting how so many Christians can get so offended when they think something is sacrilegious or blasphemy, but have no problems insulting other religions in the same manner, considering the fact that the New Testament is fundamentally based on the Golden Rule. Interesting, indeed.
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That doesn't cover treating someone's false religion as true. You do the other man no favors when you do.

I'm fully in favor of freedom of religion; my own is protected that way. But do you think you would get that same courtesy in one of the 3rd-world Islamic hellholes? Even at Gitmo, we give them their false scriptures.

There's an account in scripture (genuine scripture) of either Gideon or Samson, don't remember which, entering a pagan temple and destroying their idols. The next morning, the townspeople figured out who did it and showed up at his father's door, demanding that he send out his son to gave their wrath. His father said, "Your god needs you to fight his battles for him?"

That's the difference in insults and blasphemy. Our God, being real, can deal with blasphemy Himself. Their god is fictitious and that's why they have to resort to violence when someone insults their false god or false petty-thief-and-child-molester-turned-prophet.

When Christians get offended over blasphemy, it's institutionalized blasphemy, usually not what individuals do.
 
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Turtle said:
I think it's interesting how so many Christians can get so offended when they think something is sacrilegious or blasphemy, but have no problems insulting other religions in the same manner, considering the fact that the New Testament is fundamentally based on the Golden Rule. Interesting, indeed.
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actually the new testament is based on the grace of God and the salvation that Jesus offers, not as you put it 'the golden rule". the "do unto others" without the former would just be man trying to do his best,and we can see how that works out. the problem starts with us all getting self-righteous at times and believing some how someone is worse than we are. with out grace and salvation we all stand guilty. oh i think i just got a little self-righteous:)
 
AMonger

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gospelriders said:
actually the new testament is based on the grace of God and the salvation that Jesus offers, not as you put it 'the golden rule". the "do unto others" without the former would just be man trying to do his best,and we can see how that works out. the problem starts with us all getting self-righteous at times and believing some how someone is worse than we are. with out grace and salvation we all stand guilty. oh i think i just got a little self-righteous:)
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I think what Turtle was referring to is that the Law is summed up in this: Love your neighbor as yourself. That's what the Bible tells us. But yes, Christ and the salvation available to the elect are indeed the subject of the NT, as well as the OT, for that matter.
 
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I'm just wondering... if Jesus were alive today, do you think he'd draw a picture of Muhammad?
 
jimby82

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Jesus is alive today :) If he were here walking the earth in human form, as in New Testament times, no he would not.

I have a feeling he would be greatly disappointed in his "church" and in the hatred shown others in his name. We were and never will be deserving of his love.

I once saw a billboard that said: "That whole love thy neighbor as thyself thing ... I meant that!" - Love, Jesus.
 
AMonger

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Turtle said:
I'm just wondering... if Jesus were alive today, do you think he'd draw a picture of Muhammad?
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I've never read an account of Christ engaging in humor or satire, but the gospels don't go into that. He did many things, human things, that aren't documented in the gospels, because that's not their purpose. Additionally, Christ had the most important ministry in the world, and He knew He had a very limited time, so there are things He didn't do, like getting married, i'm order to focus on it.
Keep in mind that Christ is God, the second person of the trinity, and has all the attributes of God, among them jealousy and hatred (yes, the Bible tells us that God, and therefore Christ) hates some things, false religion among them, because of His jealousy, demanding worship for Himself and not the fictitious Allah. (We have previously covered how Allah and Yahweh are not the same.)
Would Christ draw Mohammed? We have no record of Him ever drawing anything, but it was Christ's angel who disposed of the false prophet into the lake of fire, which is where the Bible tells us false prophets go, so that's a teensy bit worse than mocking him with a drawing, I'd say.
 
Turtle

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jimby82 said:
Jesus is alive today :) If he were here walking the earth in human form, as in New Testament times, no he would not.

I have a feeling he would be greatly disappointed in his "church" and in the hatred shown others in his name. We were and never will be deserving of his love.

I once saw a billboard that said: "That whole love thy neighbor as thyself thing ... I meant that!" - Love, Jesus.
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That's the right answer. :)
 
skyraider

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U guys are being nice today, really, wow,,nice change, u sure this is the same webb site. Whoops, its Sunday, day of rest. And, momma Englishlady is watching us too.
 
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