Landstar

crazytruckin

Expert Expediter
Have spoken to a few Landstar expeditors with straight trucks while on the road and they all talk about Landstar like they are a super company to be leased to. They all say it's the best move from their previous company they could have made. Just wondering if anyone would like to discuss them with me. We are in the deep south and man it's a big problem getting out from home with the major company we are with now. Any thoughts, comments??
 

davekc

Senior Moderator
Staff member
Fleet Owner
I would do a search on the EO archives and that should give you some information.
Davekc
 

crazytruckin

Expert Expediter
Thanks Dave, did check the archieves but not much there to make any judgement. It seems we are with the same company though, been there almost 3 years.
 

RichM

Veteran Expediter
Charter Member
I have heard similar stories about LEA. They seem to be a better deal for solo drivers,don't keep negative stats on you and understand that you are a businesman first and a driver second.

Last year I met 2 o/o's that had switched carriers to LEA.Both were highly pleased.
 

Glen Rice

Veteran Expediter
The benefit to Landstar is you are looking for your own freight and not waiting for a call from dispatch. Nobody keeps tracks of your hours. You are responsible to drive according to DOT regulations. If you are aggressive in loading yourself and logging on to there load website you can be very successful.
 

ATeam

Senior Member
Retired Expediter
A couple years ago I asked an LEA recruiter what the difference was between FedEx CC and LEA, and where a team like us could do better (assuming the team met LEA's 6 month experience requirement then in effect).?

He gave a great answer. He said a good team will go well at either company. It's not so much a difference in money as a difference in operating style and relationship with the carrier.

Since then, we went with FedEx CC and have visited in depth with some LEA drivers. The recruiter's words proved to be dead on. The biggest style difference we noted is the need to surf the board for your next load if you are with Landstar.

We've come to enjoy the spare time the FedEx CC system gives us on the road. We'd rather not reach for the computer again and again and again to find our next load. It's worked well for us (a team) to let FedEx CC find the freight and simply say yes or no as offers are made.

On the other hand, if we wanted to take extended time off, we could do so at LEA without running afoul of the in-service minimums FedEx CC has. Also, when we wanted to get home (not often), it would be way easier to find loads in that direction with LEA. FedEx CC promises no help in getting you home....ever!
 

davekc

Senior Moderator
Staff member
Fleet Owner
Looking for your own loads on a consistant basis would be a hassle. Not to mention dealing with their brokers for every run. It doesn't mean one can't be successful, but it seems like an added unpaid step.
In addition, whether true or not, there is ongoing litigation from OOIDA with regards to Landstar and how they handled drivers leases and monies. Case information can be found at www.ooida.com
On the upside, many of their drivers are happy so one must research and make their own conclusions.
When just looking at the two above, I would go with Panther and not have any of those issues to contend with.
Just my opinion of course.
Davekc
owner
20 years
 

cliffn

Expert Expediter
My wife and I have driven for Landstar Express America for about fourteen months. We own the truck which is a D unit. Our previous experience had been mostly in 18-wheelers (six or seven years) and also at one point we drove a D unit for someone else for about five months. The experience we are now having is definitely the most pleasant we have had. I need to point out that some of the information that has been given to you is not quite correct. We do not pick our freight from a "load board". Most of the time we are contacted by one of the Landstar Express agents who ask us if we would like to take a certain load. We can either take it or not. Not all the freight pays the same. We try to not refuse too many loads but by the same token we will many times turn loads down that are going into a difficult area to get out of.

The owner-operators who drive the big trucks for Landstar (formerly Ranger, Ligon, etc) do indeed pick their freight from a load board. The expedited division (Express America) can pick freight from the same board if it is something we can carry. These loads are usually not as profitable and we have not taken one for a long time.

Landstar has a great computer program which we use all the time (we have wireless internet). We can, for instance, look up a certain city and see how many D loads went out of there (you plug in a radius) in the last, say thirty days and which express centers pulled them. We generally make a few phone calls to let those agents know we are looking for a load. Sometimes it helps. Sometimes not. Additionally, the agents looking for trucks can tell who is out there (all trucks must be Qualcomm equipped) and will call us if we are needed even though we have not called them.

We take time off when and where we want to and deadhead where we want to. The catch is, it is usually at our expense. It is also very common to get a call which involves deadheading to a load and the agent will agree to help us with the deadhead expense.

Another good point of the computer program is that we can check a certain area and find out how many of our trucks (empty or loaded) are there. If we are looking to make a move to a better area we won't go to an area that already has several empty trucks.

All in all, we are very happy. This company is not for everyone but it has worked for us. Hope this helps.

Cliff :) :) :)
 

davekc

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Staff member
Fleet Owner
Cliffn
Thanks for a informative update as to how they work. I knew more about them prior to them having qc's. We have met several out on the road and some were happy and some weren't. Pretty much the same as any company.
Glad you folks are doing well.
Davekc
 

NEVERHOME247

Veteran Expediter
Charter Member
Cliff gave some very good info. The wife and I have been at Landstar for almost two years. All in all, I think LEA is a good company to work for. But like any company it has its ups and downs. I will say you are treated as a business person and not a driver. You control your own destiny. You are not forced to do anything. You can do pretty much what you please. As long as you comply with DOT regulations. Now that LEA has Q-Comm you really don't have to look for your loads anymore. However, it helps to know what agents get freight out of certain areas. And give them a call. But pretty much anymore they call you. One of the advantages of the agent system versus the dispatch system. Is the agents are independents just like the O/O. And they all have a different customer base. So instead of relying on one central office. You got a network of agents based out of every state in the country. The rates vary from load to load. There is no flat rate. But all in all the rates are pretty good. Very, very little automotive freight. You also have the option to get on the computer and pull loads from the big truck side of Landstar. However, the rates have changed on those loads dramatically back in early 04. And hardly any of the LEA drivers are doing them anymore. But, even with those changes its still pretty good. LEA will pay you 35% of the gross up front when you pick up the load. And there settlements are accurate and on time. They also have alot of discounts threw there LCAPP program. They do not pay deadhead pay. But, most of the agents will pay you deadhead if you ask for some help with the deadhead. The agents all welcome you to there offices and really like to meet the drivers. The solo drivers like it here. Due to LEA does not limit you to a certain number of miles a solo can run. And the solo drivers get around the country pretty good. If the agent can get them enough time to run the load legally and safely. And in most cases they can. LEA is very big on safety and compliance. If you need to shut down for hazardous road conditions. They will not chastise you. They put your safety before the freight. I am not going to say that you will be busy all the time. Its just like any of the other companys. You will have good weeks and bad weeks. But if you like freedom to make your own decisions and go home when you want to go home. And not be penalized for what you do. LEA is a great company to work for. They don't hold your hand. You run your own business. Hope this info helps. But to be honest with you. I don't think any one company is better then the other. Its all in what you put into it. And does the company meet your requirements to achieve the revenue you desire to make.
 

RichM

Veteran Expediter
Charter Member
Good Post Thanks I am contemplating going over there. I like the idea of controling my own destiney..
 

ATeam

Senior Member
Retired Expediter
I
>need to point out that some of the information that has been
>given to you is not quite correct. We do not pick our
>freight from a "load board". Most of the time we are
>contacted by one of the Landstar Express agents who ask us
>if we would like to take a certain load. We can either take
>it or not.

Thank you for pointing out about the agents calling. I forgot to mention that. It's the load board that was most on my mind because that's what the Landstar drivers show us. (It's hard to show you an agent.) One Landstar diver in particular was very agressive in using both agents and the board. He also spoke about the need to build agent relationships so the agents remember to call you. He said if you take extended time off, you fade from agents' awareness of you.

Don't get me wrong. Landstar is a great company. It would likely be the next place we'd go if something went bad at FedEx CC.
 

crazytruckin

Expert Expediter
Just wanted to thank everyone for the input on my post about Landstar. Just had a really killer week, the black cats were rolling.
Looks to me like what I had heard from other Landstar drivers echos those of you that replied. As stated in one reply, the one thing that bugs me is to be hassled when out of service for an extended period (and to have our pay withheld after being out for 2 weeks) which we do occasionally especially during the winter months. We southerners don't take kindly to snow and ice. We look at this expediting business more as a part time job (I like to say I'm semi-retired). I seems that Landstar accepts this without hassle. Thats good! Anyway, thanks again for input, the cats will continue to roll for now but I am sure if a move were to be warrented I know where I would go. Be safe out there.;)
 

davekc

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Staff member
Fleet Owner
You are right. Must be something in the air. We had a great Feb at Panther.:)
Davekc
owner
20 years
 
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