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[OntarioVanMan]

Oh I've had it with armchair critics...and I mean armchair at that....

you whine and moan and declare no less this country is going down the tubes and you sit on your butts and do nothing about it.....just pizz and moan..

Oh but I have a job to take care of..and every other lame excuse!

Lose some income, save your country...not a bad trade off?

Good thing our troops don't think the same way..they are losing their lives over there defending your right to whine...
They are trying to win it over there as you bunch of ninnies sit on your collective butts as the country goes to shambles over here...
Oh but I called my Senator..I wrote my Rep...BIG DEAL!!

You should be out pounding the pavement getting the word out, anything, to stop this nonsense...

you should be taking your America back...

 

[greg334]

You know OVM, I seem to think that they are not defending my right to speak but my country. I don't see any foreign power trying to take my rights away - except the UN and Mexico - but they are fighting a world wide problem for humanity, not just the US.

If they were fighting for my rights, it would start with invading of Mexico to end the killings and invasion. Listen to the comments of the Mexican president who blames us for his problems but fails to make changes to his country after we give him the money.

If they were fighting for my rights, it would start with taking the UN out and using the property to develop a park.

They are fighting against odds both here and abroad, nothing less than that. They are doing a job that is been criticized by many in our government including their highest commander and no one seems to understand what we are actually doing by fighting our own government helps them in the field.

We sit here and whine?

Not really.

Look at what happened yesterday, people are fed up. The party of the president is in doubt right now, he has been handed an unique problem that has only happen a few times before - Carter was the last one.

Maybe we will see another 1980 election with the dems fighting to keep Obama out of the race?

It was unbelievable two years ago and inside of tow years into a presidency, there is this kind of dismay and disparaging outlook.

How will the worries of a nation help the men and women in the field who defend the country and fight terrorism?

In many ways.

The attitude of our country matters to the people in the field fighting. Their moral is built on a foundation of how we are here, how their families are getting along and how they can come back to country that isn't steeped in worry and fear.

 

[copdsux]

I've just put my name on the list to speak before CMPD(police) out reach meeting tomorrow night. I want them to know that I am interested in what is going on im my neighborhood.

I will be talking about, mainly, public safety issues: Speeding on residential streets, passing stopped school busses, running stop signs, etc.

I believe that if you ignore basic traffic law, it is not a huge leap to ignoring other laws that you find inconvienent.

As someone said, "All politics is local".

Mike

p.s. Yes, I'm an organ donor.

 

[greg334]

Well I don't think the Taliban is as much in tune with the US public's sentiment about the war as maybe Al Queda would be but then again it isn't like Russia/Vietnam where they poured money into campi and the anti-war movement.

I think that our real issues have less to do with the war than it has to do with the people in power. Take for example Holder trying to fight the Arizona law, he can't really because the official DoJ position is that local law enforcement authorities have the right enforce federal law. BUT he surely will try because his political motivations (and those of his boss) override any and all laws. Remember Janet Reno?

Well the FCC has been trying to figure out how to regulate free speech on the internet, they say it is to help us out but really?

Then we have others within the administration who have tried to figure out how to bring back the fairness doctrine. Which will have an lasitng effect on our political landscape but won't last long with the SC.

As for it being a fight for our existence, not even close. The fight isn't with the Taliban or Al Queda but others, the UN, the EU, the Saudis and others who think they are better than others to start with but our biggest fight is within our borders and with our government. It is also a fight against the people who think they are entitled.

For example I stood in line at the fuel desk behind two guys who were waiting for the dimwit girl to put paper in the printer for fuel receipts. One was a van driver and another was a very old trucker. The Former was a happy fellow in his 50's, but the trucker was p*ssed off at the world. The trucker was complaining - "I worked 25 years in a ******* plant and retired, went on the road and now have to keep working" So the van driver asked him why "to pay the taxes on my pension and social security, I paid all that money into social security and deserve it back. The van driver said something I couldn't believe "you don't deserve sh*t because you were paying for someone else then and you need to go get your money from them and stop complaining. Right now I and all these others are paying for you and when you kick off, they will be stuck because no one will be able to pay for them" Talk about a p*ssed off trucker, he stomped out of there without his fuel receipt. It is this attitude we have to get rid of. Our payments into the system are not paying for us but other people and our entitlement ended back when the SC said we are not entitled to that money.

 

[layoutshooter]

Our military just may be fighting to protect our rights soon. That fight will be right here, in the U.S., not overseas. I see the greatest threat to our rights in Washington D.C. There is a far greater danger from them than the U.N and every terrorist in the world. There is much talk in the barracks these days on who would fight of which side if it hits the fan. The same kind of talk took place prior to the first U.S. civil war.

 

[greg334]

Layout, our military won't be fighting here. They can't.

There wasn't a civil war but a war between the states.

 

[letzrockexpress]

The military? It isn't going to be the military..It's gonna be everybody...all of us..All out anarchy. us against them, etc....Are you ready??

 

[layoutshooter]

Layout, our military won't be fighting here. They can't.

There wasn't a civil war but a war between the states.

Yes Greg, I know what you mean. The current bum in chief WILL attempt to use serving military members to enforce he dismantling of our Constitution. The talk that I am hearing from serving members is that MOST will NOT serve under those conditions. They will uphold their oath of service. What is sad is that those conversations are even taking place.

No Rocket, I don't think there will be anarchy, at least not in the beginning. The trouble will most likely be started by this administration. They will either "trump up" something to declare some form of martial law or will just outright "do in" the Constitution and use force to bring us into line with them.

 

[greg334]

If you really want to see what it will be like, look to Detroit.

In the past couple weeks, there have been a lot of killings. The mayor said "I don't know what is causing this problem" and the chief of police is off somewhere filming some TV show and the assistant CoP seems to be speaking for the department. Conyers has offered to have the feds step in but Bing (the mayor not the search engine) said "no thanks this is a local matter" and he's right for the last 40 years it has only been a local problem. I think we will see riots in Detroit sometime soon because the people don't get it's their city.

 

[layoutshooter]

If you really want to see what it will be like, look to Detroit.

In the past couple weeks, there have been a lot of killings. The mayor said "I don't know what is causing this problem" and the chief of police is off somewhere filming some TV show and the assistant CoP seems to be speaking for the department. Conyers has offered to have the feds step in but Bing (the mayor not the search engine) said "no thanks this is a local matter" and he's right for the last 40 years it has only been a local problem. I think we will see riots in Detroit sometime soon because the people don't get it's their city.

Things are degrading, not only in Detroit, but nation wide. That is common when there is no real leadership. No one inspiring the people to rise to their highest levels. You are right, riots, civil unrest of all kinds, are just around the corner.

 

[greg334]

The point is it won't be a sudden violent onrush of death and destruction but a gradual increase of crime and destruction. The anarchy will be caused by the lack of leadership, the ambiguity of local society and the need for people to express their frustration.

 

[layoutshooter]

The riots and civil unrest that you speak of play right into the hands of Obama and Co. That will give them the excuse to try and take over the country. IF and when that happens the stuff will REALLY hit the fan!!