Daimler Vans USA , LLC new for Sprinter
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If Ford would beef up the Transit we could use it..They are missing an opportunity..
I can't remember the specs but the one I seen was light..
10k is fine but whats the empty weight? Fords are uaually heavier built.
greg334
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Stop thinking GM v. Ford. It is close to the same as a sprinter - has to be in the market it is designed for. The sprinter type van I think has 15 different brands across the EU market that are competing with each other.
You are thinking about the connect, which I think is typecasting the Transit into a light in between a van and a car commercial vehicle and may screw with the publics conception of what a Transit is.
You are thinking about the connect, which I think is typecasting the Transit into a light in between a van and a car commercial vehicle and may screw with the publics conception of what a Transit is.
I don't know why I even bother..I plan on taking this old one to the grave with me..
I'd like to see the listing of service centers.
As for the Transit. Is this perhaps why the cargomaxx is holding off on it's Ford version? It would be nice to see some competition before time for my next vehicle.
eb
As for the Transit. Is this perhaps why the cargomaxx is holding off on it's Ford version? It would be nice to see some competition before time for my next vehicle.
eb
greg334
Veteran Expediter
Aren't they already?
The big question is how many MB dealers will actually like seeing commerical traffic enter their place?
So Greg...when will we get to buy this Sprinter killer/game changer in North America? Talk is cheap if I can't buy it. I would sure entertain the thought if I could see one.
Mercedes-Benz Canada - Vans
MB Canada has Sprinter specs on their website already.
And to your question above Greg...about 90 MB USA dealers are signed on having completed the required technician and parts training.
On another Sprinter forum there have been dealers actively asking what the average Sprinter owner wants and what the big weaknesses are.
Mercedes-Benz Canada - Vans
MB Canada has Sprinter specs on their website already.
And to your question above Greg...about 90 MB USA dealers are signed on having completed the required technician and parts training.
On another Sprinter forum there have been dealers actively asking what the average Sprinter owner wants and what the big weaknesses are.
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RLENT
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Yeah ...... ya figger that in this thriving economy, where all them MB dealers are all so busy selling and servicing all the potential customers for them high-end luxury vehicles, they probably ain't gonna want any of that commercial pie ?
Is that it ?
FWIW, I'd like to see the Transit over here - more competition is always better for the consumer.
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RLENT
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Well, here's a bit of different take on that ...... 'bout a month I was down at the local tire dealer to get the tires rotated. I was sitting in the Sprinter having a smoke and a coffee while I was waiting to get in ..... and some guy walked over, so I rolled down the window and started talking to him.
First thing he asked was "How do you like your Sprinter ?"
I answered that I pretty much liked it fine - it had been reliable for me thus far, and that while I did most of the work on it myself, the only thing I really didn't care much for was having to take it to the local DODGE dealer for service occasionally when it was something I couldn't do myself ......
I then told him about my experiences (incompetent service work from the local dealer, etc.) including the most recent issue of calling a local DODGE dealer for a pumpkin gasket and gear oil so I could service the rear end:
When I called the local dealer, I had already looked up the part numbers and checked pricing online at Berry Dodge - Wholesale Dodge Sprinter Parts) - $9.32 for the gasket ($12.65 list) and $18.21 per quart for the gear oil ($21.42 list - it's synthetic, 2 quarts required)
The quote I received from the local dealer was close to $30 for the gasket, and almost $45 per quart for the gear oil. When I questioned the DODGE parts guy about this, the reply I got was (in a rather surly tone) "What do you expect - it's a Mercedes ......"
Hmmmm .... zat right ?
I then proceeded to explain to the individual that had walked up to the van while I was sitting there waiting to have my tires rotated what I thought about that specifically, and a couple of other things:
1. that based on my recent parts buying experience and just a relatively few similar experiences with DODGE, none of which really had a horrible or catastrophic outcome, I would never, ever - as long as I was capable of drawing a breath - buy another vehicle from the retards in Auburn Hills - no matter who they were eventually sold off to, after Fiat gets tired of 'em .....
2. considering that General Motors has now become Government Motors, I would never, ever - as long as I was capable of drawing a breath - buy another vehicle from them.
Unless and until they change their ways, both of them can go rot ....
3. that Mercedes taking back the Sprinter was the best news I had heard in a while, and that they should have never let DODGE put their hands on it in the first place.
I then asked him why he was interested in the Sprinter. His reply:
"I'm recently retired ...... from Mercedes-Benz/Daimler ..... I worked directly for the German company ... not Chrysler here" (making it clear that he was no part of the Auburn Hills crowd)
I then got to hear a little bit of the inside story of how insane and retarded the folks in Auburn Hills were, when Daimler got involved and tried to turn them around ..... they deserve to be taken over ...... by Fiat, no less .....
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greg334
Veteran Expediter
Piper,
I got all that, thanks.
My annual MB training package was received today for the 2010 models, a little late but it has a revised schedule in it and new price list. I haven't even opened it up, so who knows what they are offering to 3p shops. I noticed that in an email sent out by Daimler that they are stressing Dodge sprinters are not considered gray market vehicles - you may know the history on that touchy subject.
Rlent, there is a lot of stories about the mess at Auburn Hills palace - pretty much it all comes down to the fact that D-C at the time didn't stress a need to actually hold a lot of the service managers accountable "for that d*mn German van". But again if a 5 star dealer who has Cummins trained mechanics on staff can crack a injector pump housing while adjusting an idle on an ISB, anything is possible.
I am told Fiat is taking a different approach to the entire thing, they do not care about the chrysler line or the people and because they want to use the whole affair as a sales channel so we may see further product line cuts with the US product line while bringing in more Fiat products.
I got all that, thanks.
My annual MB training package was received today for the 2010 models, a little late but it has a revised schedule in it and new price list. I haven't even opened it up, so who knows what they are offering to 3p shops. I noticed that in an email sent out by Daimler that they are stressing Dodge sprinters are not considered gray market vehicles - you may know the history on that touchy subject.
Rlent, there is a lot of stories about the mess at Auburn Hills palace - pretty much it all comes down to the fact that D-C at the time didn't stress a need to actually hold a lot of the service managers accountable "for that d*mn German van". But again if a 5 star dealer who has Cummins trained mechanics on staff can crack a injector pump housing while adjusting an idle on an ISB, anything is possible.
I am told Fiat is taking a different approach to the entire thing, they do not care about the chrysler line or the people and because they want to use the whole affair as a sales channel so we may see further product line cuts with the US product line while bringing in more Fiat products.
I have to agree with you on Dodge parts and service . I've owned a few Dodges and would never buy another . As far as diesels go Ford has been a loser since the 7.3 was replaced . But I would buy General Motors products . How do you expect them to repay the loans if everyone boycotts them ? GM to Repay Loans From U.S., Canada by End of June (Update1) - Bloomberg.comWell, here's a bit of different take on that ...... 'bout a month I was down at the local tire dealer to get the tires rotated. I was sitting in the Sprinter having a smoke and a coffee while I was waiting to get in ..... and some guy walked over, so I rolled down the window and started talking to him.
First thing he asked was "How do you like your Sprinter ?"
I answered that I pretty much liked it fine - it had been reliable for me thus far, and that while I did most of the work on it myself, the only thing I really didn't care much for was having to take it to the local DODGE dealer for service occasionally when it was something I couldn't do myself ......
I then told him about my experiences (incompetent service work from the local dealer, etc.) including the most recent issue of calling a local DODGE dealer for a pumpkin gasket and gear oil so I could service the rear end:
When I called the local dealer, I had already looked up the part numbers and checked pricing online at Berry Dodge - Wholesale Dodge Sprinter Parts) - $9.32 for the gasket ($12.65 list) and $18.21 per quart for the gear oil ($21.42 list - it's synthetic, 2 quarts required)
The quote I received from the local dealer was close to $30 for the gasket, and almost $45 per quart for the gear oil. When I questioned the DODGE parts guy about this, the reply I got was (in a rather surly tone) "What do you expect - it's a Mercedes ......"
Hmmmm .... zat right ?
I then proceeded to explain to the individual that had walked up to the van while I was sitting there waiting to have my tires rotated what I thought about that specifically, and a couple of other things:
1. that based on my recent parts buying experience and just a relatively few similar experiences with DODGE, none of which really had a horrible or catastrophic outcome, I would never, ever - as long as I was capable of drawing a breath - buy another vehicle from the retards in Auburn Hills - no matter who they were eventually sold off to, after Fiat gets tired of 'em .....
2. considering that General Motors has now become Government Motors, I would never, ever - as long as I was capable of drawing a breath - buy another vehicle from them.
Unless and until they change their ways, both of them can go rot ....
3. that Mercedes taking back the Sprinter was the best news I had heard in a while, and that they should have never let DODGE put their hands on it in the first place.
I then asked him why he was interested in the Sprinter. His reply:
"I'm recently retired ...... from Mercedes-Benz/Daimler ..... I worked directly for the German company ... not Chrysler here" (making it clear that he was no part of the Auburn Hills crowd)
I then got to hear a little bit of the inside story of how insane and retarded the folks in Auburn Hills were, when Daimler got involved and tried to turn them around ..... they deserve to be taken over ...... by Fiat, no less .....
One manufacturer I won't buy from is Daimler after they eliminated thousands of American and Canadian jobs by moving production to Mexico . They also shafted Sterling dealers by pushing them to have stand alone dealerships . Some Sterling Dealers Angry, Refuse Settlement Offers | Automotive > Automotive Trade from AllBusiness.com
Yes , I know American vans will become a thing of the past . Chrysler will bring in Fiats and Ford will bring in their European vans .
greg334
Veteran Expediter
Actually they claim they can pay back the loans before they got the loans and covered up the facts that with the cutting of product lines and losing market share, they will not be able to pay back the majority of the "loans" they got. The loan they are paying back will net them a lot of money that they should be paying the US tax payer in the form of interest and it is a big d*mn number's game to make it look like the administration and the company did well.
Canada is the same as Mexico - it is a foreign country and for some reason has no connection to our people or our problems.
D-C did what Chrysler and Lutz wanted to do all along but couldn't because of the union. I don't begrudge the company a bit because they had a hard decision to make when the union (which is opposite from the union in the EU) refused to help out and has been on the opposite side (greedy) of things within the company. The German unions work witht he company to become stronger and better through a stronger company but here it is all about how much the worker can make and only that. The losers were not the union worker who lost their job but the consumer who didn't like the junk product they were turning out and selling through the second rate dealer system they created but more so the US tax payer who has been screwed when the company should have gone into receivership and the union contracts nullified.
Good to know, I'll remember that next time I pass a Salvation Army Kettle in front of a Wal-Mart in Ohio...I guess I can keep my hands in my pockets next year.
greg334
Veteran Expediter
Piper it's automotively speaking, I didn't word it right - sorry.
It is not a bash against Canada or the Canadians, but rather a bash against the ignorance of the people here where I live. The UAW and their rank and file seem to think that the CAW and their rank and file are tied together when it suits them but when there are problems that are unique to the CAW and support of the CAW is needed, a lot of them remain silent and some refuse to support the CAW and the workers - St Thomas is one example. They seem to forget that Canada is a foreign country and should be respected as one, not an extension of the US or Detroit for that matter and p*ssed on when they visit Canada.
Point taken, I'm a little touchy tonight as I had the joy of listening to a waitress at dinner (who wasn't from here) tell a little kid that he was wrong to want to join the military and be put in danger with the same people he thought were heroes.
I ended up being asked to leave as I couldn't keep my mouth shut.
It's all good Greg, thanks for the clarification.
I ended up being asked to leave as I couldn't keep my mouth shut.
It's all good Greg, thanks for the clarification.