Crew Cab GMC W4500

D Team Brothers

Expert Expediter
Anyone out there have any experience with the GMC W4500 crew cab? GVW averages 16000 and can easily carry a 16 foot box with liftgate. Would possibly make a great HD B unit with a small sleeper area.
 

LDB

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
I've thought many times a 17' Aerocell body on a 4500 chassis would be a great unit although not dock high and requiring logs which are both negatives.

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greg334

Veteran Expediter
I looked at two W GMCs with sleepers one was a crew cab. One in Canada at and the other in Indy. I thought that this is cool but I could not find who made the sleepers. The one in Canada I drove and it was just like driving an Isuzu (DUH! of course) which has one thing that I really can't stand - no room for me to tuck my left foot under the seat. The one in Indy was sold when I arrived, found it in truck paper. One sleeper was a coffin sleeper and one had a stand up 60 or so inch space. You crawled (not like an FL70 with that hole) because of the engine hump through the center of the cab.

I saw a Tri State (I think) W5500 in Monroe a while ago with the sleeper in the box. The only thing was that you had to get out of the cab.

I would think that over 10K, you need a legal sleeper.
 

Jefferson3000

Expert Expediter
Hmmm....W4500. Isn't that the cabover? I've been seeing a bunch of those crew cabs lately. I'm sure that those are NOT dock high, as I believe that they have 16" wheels. Now as far as the 4500 Kodiak, I believe that it IS dock high.

BTW, there is a small freight forwarder in my town that runs a couple of Mitsubishi cabovers w/ a 15 ft box that are dock high, from what I can tell. Looks like they jacked up the back of the truck, probably with a extra leaf spring thrown on.


Drive Safe!

Jeff
 

tazman

Expert Expediter
Hi,

The W-series Crew Cab ( GMC-Isuzu-Chevy) come in 2 sizes... a 4500 @14,500GVWR and a 5500 @17,950 GVWR..both can support a 16' Dry freight box....(max)
The 4500 (Isuzu badge NPR-HD) will have 16" rims
The 5500 ( Isuzu badge NQR) will have 19.5" rims..

Both trucks have a I-4 turbocharged (5.1L) diesel

None of these units will be true "dock-height trucks...you need 22.5" wheels to accomplish that ...



Frank In Pa.
"The Beast in the East":)
 

MSinger

Expert Expediter
My former truck was a 1997 Ram 3500 cab/chassis with a 12' Supreme box. It had 16" tires. When I bought the truck used it was 43" from ground to floor of box. I took it to Lonnie's Truck & Trailer in Indy and they raised the box 5" by adding a few pieces of steel between the chassis and the box and reapplied the U-Bolts. They also had to extend the fuel fill line. It was level to 99% of the docks I backed up to. The box was too short to drive a fork truck on (which was a plus) so I carried a pallet jack. It was a great setup especially when doing some of the UAW plants that required a dock-high truck for everything i.e Visteon-Indpls, Ford-Claycomo, Visteon-Sterling Heights ugggh : (
I recently purchased a used Penske GMC Savana with a 10,000 GVWR. The old Dodge was starting to nickel and dime me w/529,000 miles and I was tired of messing with the logs. I have not pursued making the new truck dock high as it would be more of a project since the van body and box are connected. So far I have not noticed a decrease in the number of runs offered (non dock-high vs. dock-high) although it was more convenient loading and unloading directly at the dock even though it was with a pallet jack.
I am sure you could make a GMC 4500 or 5500 dock-high without much of a problem.
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
I have to tell you that after driving the GMC 7500 for my road test, I like it a lot. I would order either a 6500 or 7500 to make it dock high.

It was like driving my van with a little more nose on the front and a box on the back. Comfort was a little less than I would order, being a rental it has minmal creature comforts. I would order it with air suspension and better seats with either an autoshift or automatic.

As for a W series, I saw an expediter version last night when I went to Wal-Mart. he was pulling out on the far end of the lot. I didn't catch the company name but he had a sleeper on the truck.
 
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