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That was a pretty good read.....The one on McCain was pretty good too....thanks

The problem in this forum as I see it is some of the posters work for FDX, FDX WG or Lea and on the other hand some Tristate and Bolt , Panther....one on average is paid more then the other.....so we get this push an shove thing going on...whats one norm for one is anothers throw away...so...

Lets see...an E-1 c or d unit would get 1.20 plus fsc or about $1.50pm . using Col's numbers of .80 that would leave .70cpm for the tax man.

BTW I never said anything about doing runs below ones cost....I was referring to the example Turtle gave about "some" that sit and reject anything under 500 miles. Yeah I know cheri and Linda it's thier "right" and none of my business how they run thier business....But when carriers change your...

Under Hawks example...I guess no one will be complaining about a 7.65 hamburger and fries at the J, because they have costs to cover.

Just can't change tracks that quick after 57 years of one style of government. And at least two generations of Anti American family background. I'll let that rattle around for abit and see what comes out! Thanks greg

dispatch is going to do him in for 2 lousy miles???? Just re-inforces my belief that boards are useless.

From yours and Daves posts it sounds like more of an insurance company problem? Doing whatever they want cancelling policies raises rates with no controls or rules....this be close? I do have to admit I can always get into to seeing my doctor back in Bison SD....had so many blood tests...

My last carrier had a few 5% mileage deduction with some customers....groaner

Greg...I understand about the logistics of trying to manage such a huge white elephant such as healthcare and SS....In Canada with the acceptance of private clinics it's helping take some of the load off the public system....it's a mix of both systems... And Greg....Canadians let the government...

Col...Thank you....your one of a few minds that thinks alot like me.....scary eh?????

I am not inclined to type a 20 page essay on the big picture I see in my mind there are way too many variables to be worth discussion...and it wouldn't fit any one type of truck nor owner. So any further comment on my part would be a MOOT point. *L* BUT too say a burger flipper has NO...

Interesting way to look at it Rob....spend more on war and foriegn policy then spend on your own citizens.....ummm My mind wanders at times...I know someone will correct me here in this line of thought...BUT why is it the U.S. is one of the lone almost standalone countries without a defined...

Define a crappy run..... A shipper needs a skid taken over to warehouse cross town say 30 miles....assume it may take 3 hours of time to do....$50 for the mini plus say $10.00 fsc on mileage= 60.00 divided by 3 = 20.00 per hour...and this is crappy? for Turtle and I it is do able, for a...

greg said "OVM, It don't matter what others think, unless you are sitting at that computer making the calls, there may be 100 reasons why someone would turn down a load. blanketing the subject is not really, well .....good. " Agreed!

Cheri...it's not all about crappy loads...even good paying loads say 3-400 miles are turned down for longer ones.....as this is always a business persons proagative the right to say aye or nay...do you really think it's good for the business....

Moot...isn't that a load of crap? You mean they don't know the actual mileage? Sounds like a disclaimer from hell!!!

An energetic person could clean up in Michigan if they paid the 100 minimum run 2 or 3 a day and be home every night!!

Under a 100 miles we sprinters get $100 plus fsc on the mileage and CV's get $75.00 plus fsc there are no first outs except on cancelled or dry runs.

Greg...remember Panther is not a true trucking company but just a financial investment company the happens to be in the trucking business...They prolly lease the computers, lease the building don't even own the pot to piss in...could be gone tomorrow if things go sour and not look back. The...