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chefdennis said.."For me, while my way temperment and demeanor doesn't let me work well for someone, I always know where and when to treat those around me the best i can to achieve the best end result for all involved. Thats just good business. When you do that, its funny how most businesses...

Boy Greg...your posts have really seemed to swing more radical lately.....is that the election fever?????

We budget over a quarter...have a target where we need to be....it's just to swingy to do any less.... HEY....pal :).....I have the BIG ticket CDL B...but chose not to drive big ones....don't wanna log, don't wanna deal with DOT...besides all things considered I make as much or more...that is...

I sometimes I think when reading you guys thoughts and reading the news, just how inconsequential we as a species really are..when mother nature waves her arm and tosses us a Katrina, A 7.9 earthquake. An F5 tornado...all we can do is watch death and destruction, our bombs and guns are of no...

I am down as well....July is usually hit and miss....more misses then hits....but fuels dropping along with the FSC ,that might encourage more shippers to use us again...who knows...just do the best ya can at least you can say you gave it your best shot!

If you figure the success rate in the van market is only 10% then yes.....9 out of 10 vanners you speak to aren't making it... Besides Charles theres turtle/p2 and Rlent/ Bolt are also making the grade....so is it the carrier or the personality....as you may have read here and it plays like a...

Aristotle and Turtle are 2 great examples of patience and courage in the van sector..they have endured with Panther and are successful with them...Most of us vanners seem to be always swimming against the current...no matter what carrier..:D

Beemer neither Charles or I am trying to be a smarta$$...we have no reason to lie..it would serve you or I no good...We are telling you straight up...we aren't going to get rich as Charles said but we are making it...I would suggest as Charles did, ask around some more....look for those who sit...

So beemer your gettin out...can't make it eh? First thing going against you...cargo van.....second thing Panther.... I'd like to ask you a couple questions... When you go into a shipper are you pleasant? Do you ask questions? Like gee my first time here...DO you ship many expedite loads? or...

Well DOH!!! you asked why one would vote democrat i gave you one example....increased medical coverage..medicare

So Turtle says council is useless or powerless maybe so but it's all you have..... So whats the next move? Going to just sit and watch ...be a spectator? Or play the same game and get YOUR 1st out??