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I added to my original post...I gave the credit where due... While it does take away from future sales...it gave a boost when needed most....people have gotten a boost NOW...if not for the program millions of more people would have gone belly up now.. It gave the auto industry time to breathe...

I would think the administration cost was factored in,,,,it was a great make work project for civil servants...from the people who printed the checks right down to the compliance people who made sure the trade in was destroyed...and all the related paperwork... I think 24,000 is a stretch...

Unless I missed something the only one that made money was the individual states...collecting the sales tax but having no liability in the C4C program...

And the ownership issue?

A wealthy hospital benefactor was being shown around the hospital. During her tour, she passed a room where a male patient was masturbating furiously. "Oh my GOD!" screamed the woman. "That's disgraceful! Why is he doing that?" The doctor who was leading the tour calmly explained...

How can any American justify the WH crossing the line and getting involved in the day to day operation of a private company..GM? Yeah the WH could have done a secret deal...like...get rid of the CEO and you'll get your money.... And the Czar issues.....law dictates that czars have NO power in...

Wake up America By Thomas Sowell | Posted: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 Just one year ago, would you have believed that an unelected government official, not even a Cabinet member confirmed by the Senate but simply one of the many "czars" appointed by the President, could arbitrarily cut the...

want a scenic tour and it is less then 20 miles longer...US 23 to US 441/US 321? US 66....thru Gatlinburg TN most of it is 4 lane highway....

Thankfully it is not all doom and gloom....Corporate America will do what they get paid to do...Make their company money. AP News : NewsChannel 9

It shows up on my computer? Hmmm:confused:

Read the bottom line!!

We delivered in Tawas....load planning advised to stay here...

Saginaw J for awhile...

Much to the chagrin of many..This country has been socialist .....when the first SS check was issued When the first welfare check was cashed When food stamps were printed When Medicare was started When Unemployment insurance was formed. All government controlled and sanctioned. The U.S.S.A...

Look around...those controls are here as well... Europe hasn't suffered the severe fate the US has because of some of them controls.... Them are controls here...only more subtle.... And ..Define controls? Wouldn't you say..letting the foxes run the hen house here...because of lack of...

Ya know it does not matter what we think of them over there..it is their concern...the US should be more concerned about itself.... If the people over there go with it and they are, by and by happy with it....so be it....if works for them good for them....because whatever we have here sure...

bout time ya got your butt movin.....:D

Try to get one more aerodynamic...some of them raised roofs look weird/silly and pretty blunt...MPG's in the van world is pretty important factor....

wanna twist numbers like the government does? if it was up 3.1% over July and August and went down .3% in Sept. That is a 2.8% gain overall...:D:rolleyes: Now when they are comparing year to year..they are going to be getting into some low numbers anyhows....everything will look rosey by...

So TJP called me last night to express his regret at the Chefs misfortune...all while he was counting his money...*LOL*