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I apologize, Turtle, for quoting you out of context. It was wrong for me to do so. I continue to maintain that the case I make is correct and legally sound. My case is made, and as I said above, I am content to let readers do what they will with what I presented.

A lot of digital ink has been spilled in the above debate over the definition of HAZMAT. It's funny, though, as a practical matter, neither definition needs to be known by a truck driver to properly perform his or her HAZMAT duties. I'm going to give a hypothetical example to illustrate that...

Then clarify your meaning and I will acknowledge my error. I will not however drop the assertion that if it is on the Hazardous Materials Table it is HAZMAT. Indeed, I will promote it as an established fact.

I knew it had to be somebody! CITIZENS UNITE AGAINST THE MAN IN THE MOON!

Thank you. That is one of the important points I was trying to make. Regarding the definition you offered, I did not ignore it. I acknowledged it and agree that it comes from the regulations. But I rely on the definition I cited because I believe it is more applicable to truck drivers. As...

It is probably best to not use the "people I know who do HAZMAT shipping for a living are wrong" argument. I'd just come back with people I met who do HAZMAT shipping for a living and have been proven to be wrong, and with people I know who are HAZMAT experts who are right. I have turned to...

I agree with this, Turtle. And, at present, I admit that I am making the assumption you describe. Cheri made the same point. Now, if I can show you with the regs that my assumption is based in fact (and I intend to do exactly that), and that the regs themselves state that every item listed in...

HAZMAT is many things to many people. Depending on what is going on with it, different regulations apply. If it is being stored in a warehouse with other chemicals, regs apply that you and I would have little concern about. So too if it is being flown on a plane or transported by rail across an...

That is precicely the assumption I am making and the assertion too. Please see my comments in my reply to Cheri about the bridge I will provide, and please give me time to provide it. I am not without support on this. My wife and codriver Diane is learned in the law (worked as an attorney...

A fair comment, but it remains the case that every item listed on the Hazardous Materials Table is HAZMAT, regardless of weight, placards or the kind of vehicle it is placed in. Given your comment, it now falls to me to provide the bridge you seek, that is, to show in the regs exactly why it...

This is actually some pretty dry stuff and I would have thought everyone would have lost interest in the reg-speak long before readers got this deep into the thread. Seeing that at least one reader is continuing to read, I will continue to build my case, but only as time permits. I am deep into...

We try to keep a clean, shiny floor in our truck. To that end, we almost always use our pallet jack to load and unload the truck and prohibit forklifts from entering the truck. But every once in a while, the freight is such that it must be pushed or dragged across the floor. TIP: Keep a spray...

A good month indeed! Congratulations. The best month we had when at FedEx Custom Critical with our CR TVAL unit was $38,000. We made ten truck payments after that month. It was sweet.

We were under load all day yesterday and would have been unable to meet. Nice thought, though. Next time.

I don't know anything about Bolt insulation one way or another but can say that Diane and I are sure glad to have an ARI sleeper these days. We're laying over this weekend in Tucson and Phoenix. Outside temps will range from 100 to 110. The sun will beat down on the sleeper and heat up the...

In Tucson now. Pick up near Phoenix on Monday. Will be passing time in both cities this weekend.

Truck spec porn!

Since we are talking to readers now, and encouraging them to look things up, let me add this. When looking the things up that Turtle recommends, be sure to read the "for purposes of" language. For the purpose of X, a word will be defined one way, but for the purpose of Y, the very same word...

You have made your case. I've made mine. Neither of us believes himself to be mistaken. I'm content to stop here and let readers consider our comments and do whatever additional research they may wish to do. It would take more time than I care to commit to dig through the multiple definitions...