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And just what in Sam's blazes does OBama have to do this revolt? gee.... Just how do you know the CIA isn't helping this? Maybe? Good to see these people trying to overthrow this type of rule.

Tough luck...Good for them for getting drivers home..before the banks completely cut off their line of credit...

transporter.and I thought I was tough on drivers...shesh!*LOL* In these tough times all drivers that drive for an O/O should have at least bus fare to get home as ANY O/O can go belly up at any time. Even your good owner could have his line of credit pulled back and voila, you are stuck with no...

Hey Joe..you are excused...;) I heard Obama's speech about this incident...he sounded genuinely concerned..he called it a terrorist act.

I am with you Dave..those who can not afford heat or enough fuel to get home... as the song goes..Nana nana, hey hey goodbye! Go flip burgers...or Walmart greeter..pays better for most.

That is absolutely a carriers FAULT.. Either the contract rate is too low. to pay out DH. or a dispatcher is keeping some of the profit.. IF.. IF were really a MUST load they would pay you ALL that was in the load and NOT make a profit. AND yet they try their best to guilt us into it...

I have read it over and the only thing I read is "Commercial Vehicle" I did not find a weight requirement. No where did I find under 10,000 or any reference to vans.... Then again Bob's plumbing is commercial. Must be something in there that states FMSCA regulated vehicles only. I hope...

Absolutely....as vehicles dwindle there will be times that we will be asked to go absurd DH distances for a MUST cover load...carriers have to understand that this is a deal breaker unless WE are properly reimbursed.

Bottom line-----do your profession right.

but these infractions don't stay forever on ones record...i believe they expire in 3 years... bad thing about DAC is only drivers get nailed not owners... The driver enforcement process provides FMCSA with the tools to identify problem drivers and to verify and address the issues. The new...

EB..IF you can communicate with your dispatch much the better...ASK where they see loads coming up..MOVE...what I call "half the distance to goal line" Make them pay for the rest..*L* Rob....my carrier would try to line up LTL if possible, but a van load is rough to get...as they say..at...

When I was with a Can carrier unpaid DH is almost the norm...unfortunately I think the secret is to stay close to your lanes and forget those Looong loads where ya have to DH back into the zone.

For us we are going to see JuJu at home for most of the year...long loads just wear us out...I am happy with 400-600 miles loads. 3x's a week. Any busier then that is gravy. Looking to be OOS even more as I tend to the land out here....I don't need to grind and hustle anymore...I'll leave that...

and still blowing...

No argument from me on that point Joe... If we are having a war lets have a war instead of all this ***** footin around!! BTW.. Remember they brought in Canadian sniper instructors at the beginning of this to make that ONE and A HALF mile shot!:D

as of this morning...its been snowing and blowing 40-60 mph wind and deathly cold. Have a 5 foot drift around my van. And STILL going!:eek: I-29.Closed from Can Border to Neb. I-94 Closed all of N.D. I-90 Closed all of S.D. I-80.Parts closed of Northeast Neb.

Now you are going deep on me... but lets remember we ARE at war...and an attack should not shock people..it should be expected. War is not a one sided affair.

Let our guard down? When was it ever up? All this "feel good" security to appease the general public is just baloney!! If someone wants to do something, there is nothing we can do about it....:eek: There's no failure here...just reality check.

poke-poke-poke....:p Merry Christmas Joe!!

Is it our responsibility to stop it? or just protect our borders (fortify) and let them do their thing... No one stopped the Romans or Khan and the world did not end...what makes us the keeper of the world?