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I too am beging not to trust Gates. I liked what he said during his confirmation hearings. He is now starting to sound like an Obama lacky.

We are checked into Miami, we are staying at Mrs. Layoutshooters mom's place in Pembroke Pines, FL. Hope to get some fishing in if the weather gives me a break. Thunderstorms all day today. Give me a shout if your in the area and maybe we can work out a fishing trip.

I am a Dinosour and proud of it!!! I believe in freedom, self-reliance, honor, integrity and the United States of America and our Constitution. Barry and Co. does not. You are right about one thing, OVM, those of use who believe in freedom WILL be buried, by those who do not. The "Left" has...

Duty, Honor and Integrity. My code of conduct and words that Barry has no understanding of Cheri.You would be wrong in thinking that I have not made my feelings known to that coward. That twit might have spent his life answering to puppetmasters and polesters, but not I. I, unlike him, am my...

You got that right!!! NOW, since we are NOT giving the power to vote down tax increases and all this stupid spending on the Federal level we have to get rid of the bums who are doing it!!! VOTE THE SCUM OUT!! EVERY INCOMBENT, REGUARDLESS OF PARTY!!!!

You are correct. Carter should have never did what he did. He, as the present resident of the White House did not believe in honoring committments. Carter is responsible for this mess. No other administration dealt with it very well. When they achieve that power they are after, and we keep...

LOL!! Only sort of. I could not get it to do what I wanted it to. The editor would not let me put in any other pics. I had some good ones too.

We deliver in Miami on Friday. Will most likely camp at Mrs. Layoutshooter's Mom's place for the weekend. IT's FISHING TIME!!! FUN, I am starting to remeber what that is!!:D

It was not us Humble!! We got a run from Richmond to Miami. Does not pay great but Mrs. Layoutshooters mom lives 25 miles from the delivery. We will most likely camp at her place over the holiday. FISHING!!!!!! :D

What outragous statements? He is heading down the path that Carter started us down and no one since tired to stop it. Millions will die. You mark my words, when Iran gets a bomb and a accurate delievery system we are all in GRAVE danger. Stop them now and it will cost hundreds of thousands of...

Hey Piper1, I sent you a PM with the info on the place if you get the chance.

Hey Piper1, head down to Monroe and go to the Michigan Bar and Grill for dinner!! Good food, big portions and fair prices!! It is on Monroe Street (Dixie Hwy) in Monroe.

Hey moot, they might have been a new money vacuum machine made by the same people that make those money vacuums called "slot machines". :D

Obama proved where he stands when he was bowing and scraping in Saudi Arabia.

In fact, my truck is MUCH better on fuel than ANY production car made anywhere!! Example: My truck weighs 30,000lbs empty. It gets 10 (rounded off) mpg. For 3000lb car to be as good on fuel as my truck it would have to get 100mpg. Barry is mixing apples and oranges to rip us off!! To...

I get it but I was talked about the phyics of the thing. I don't think there will any real increase in effiency. Use my truck for example: When I bought it I was getting 8-8.5 to the gallon. With a lot of work I get it up to 10.5-11.5 mpg. THAT is an increase in effiency. If I bought a...

Sorry about this but I just cannot resist!! If I try I will just bust!!! This will be funny!!! Are you ready for this? Hey Man!! If you like to investigate the "strange" you sure came to the right place!!!! LOL!!! I am sorry but I am bored and you gave me such a great openning line to jump...

I think we are not getting what I am looking at. Just fuel effiency. How do you determine if there has been a gain? By the overall fleet mileage? On a car by car basis?

I agree with all the costs coming down the road but that was not the point of this question. Does anyone believe that there will be an increase in fuel efficency? In fact, how do you determine is there has been a increase?

I was just wondering just how many in here fell for Barry's line that his new emission standards will give us a big increase in fuel efficency? I did not, did you? Tell me why you think so.