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  1. Turtle

    Oil continues it decline

    If you want to push the issue and be a baby about it, yes, I can prove that Bush didn't rake in his cut of Exxon profits nor did he make billions from oil while he was the president. The GAO and every democrat in the beltway keeps a close watch on every penny the president takes in and spends...
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    New Group On EO

    Layout, please make no mistake, I am not making fun of you at all. Sometimes my lame attempt at humor gets the best of me and doesn't translate well. I'm dead serious about your communicating your thoughts to Obama. If you recognize the patterns, one would think that those in Washington would...
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    New Group On EO

    Yeah, I get it, but it's all still based on what you think Obama will actually do. You don't know what he might do, or might be able to do, regardless of the patterns. 2009 America is a far different place than was pre-war Germany, or any other place in Europe, for that matter. In any case...
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    Drivers Council 1st things 1st

    Just a headsup... Panther's C-link is called "the QC" or "the Qualcomm". Don't sabotage your own credibility by using a competitor's lingo in a Council meeting. Drivers with a First Out can take their First Out with them anywhere they want to go, including home, as long as they don't change...
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    Oil continues it decline

    I agree completely. There's nothing wrong with anyone posting their personal political views on here, and running for Driver Council doesn't have anything to do with that. My issue here is not personal opinions, as I welcome that, encourage it. My issue is the clear demonstration of a lack of...
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    New Group On EO

    Yes, fear is a survival instinct. Fight or flight. But it's usually a fear to fight or flight from something specific, not something imagined. A nervous animal may jump at a sudden noise without knowing what the noise is, but the noise itself is very real, not imagined. You don't see deer...
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    New Group On EO

    The anger and hate is spawned from the fear. The only thing to fear is fear itself. Someone said it. The fear of the unknown is what gets them, but it is an irrational fear, because they are afraid of something they don't even know. Instead of moving back a little towards the rational, instead...
  8. Turtle

    The Aging of the Presidents

    "Baseball....Doubleday...Can..." Ah, baseball, as I live and breathe it's the reason I live and breathe. When I cut myself I bleed Cincinnati Red, when I stub my toe it turns Dodger Blue. Abner Doubleday was born in Ballston Spa, New York, a little town just south of Saratoga Springs. His...
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    Industrys failing

    They're trying to sell off Hummer. Sales jumped when they came out with the smaller H2 and peaked in 2006 when they sold 71,524 of them (just looked it up on Autodata). But since then it's been all downhill, and not even a bumpy one. Between the gas prices and the incessant whining of...
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    The Aging of the Presidents

    I think the first CIA Daily Briefing the morning after the election not only added a few years to him already, but it also showed him the importance of peddling backwards.:) At least he had the good sense to opt out of the Economic Summit meeting this weekend, although he was invited. Can you...
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    Industrys failing

    Anyone who starts a business has to realize pretty quickly that they have a silent partner, and there's no getting around it. With the auto industry, due to all kinds of regulations and restrictions the silent partner has placed on it, the partner ain't all that silent. While management answers...
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    Iraq Trucking Jobs

    Golden goose, I got, same with pie in the sky. Don't get the roast goose. Sure, I see the metaphor about the goose that lays the golden eggs, the golden goose and all that, and of the fanciful promise of "a pie in the sky" salvation meal (coined in the Joe Hill song The Preacher and the Slave...
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    Iraq Trucking Jobs

    One of these days someone's gonna have to explain to me what a roast goose hunt is, cause I don't get it. It's a metaphor that makes no sense to me, and an in-depth Google search of nearly 600 million host servers finds the EO Forum is the only place it's ever used.
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    Oil continues it decline

    The president has zero control and influence over the world price of oil. None. Even if he did, it is illegal for him to profit from any enterprise, be it public or private. To say that Bush, or Cheney, is an oil man is a misnomer, and quite ignorant, as they are at best former oil men. Bush did...
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    New Tip

    Except the handle isn't an indicator. If there is one, it's the little triangular arrow on the pump that points to the correct side of the vehicle. On mine, for example, in the center of the little pump is a black arrow that points to the left.
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    The Aging of the Presidents

  17. Turtle

    Stay Away from Detroit!!

    It must be that. I've seen some slick roads, but nothing compared to up here. Couple of years ago driving through Kalamazoo, in the middle of all that construction, the roads started icing up. Anywhere else it would have been OK. In an instant there were hundreds of cars and trucks just sliding...
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    Stay Away from Detroit!!

    I don't know what it is, but when the roads gets slick in Michigan, icy, snowy, they're the slickest roads I've ever seen. It's unreal.
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    Stand up stand up and fight

    Too many people are way too shortsighted on this bailout issue. It's like if the US auto industry fails, the Big Two and the Other One, anyway, people think just let 'em fail, serves 'em right, but they fail to recognize that nearly immediately somewhere between 2.2 and 2.8 million people would...
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    Do You Buy Fuel in Mount Vernon, IL?

    Yeah,the IFTA taxes play a huge part in all this, but I'm in a van, so the price at the pump, plus whatever discounts I can get, is what matters to me. As 11/9/08, current state averages for diesel, retail pump prices IL - $3.241 MO - $2.837 IA - $2.971 IN - $3.101 KY - $3.051 WI -$3.004...
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