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I would be "exploring" with a lawyer, BIG TIME. IF you are off, you are off. PERIOD. Interesting questions. I wonder what the "experts" in here have to say about this.

Did you hire a lawyer? I would have, as soon as I got back from vacation. That brings up another question. When I am off I am often hunting or fishing. Many times I am not in cell phone range. What would happen if my name "came up" and I could not be reached?

Dumb question, not meaning to be a pain. Did you take your truck out of service? Did you take yourselves OOS? We have ALWAYS taken US, the drivers, OOS when off. Our CC told us that we could NOT be called for a random under those conditions. Seems we may need TWO lawyers.

Yeah, I know that too. That dose NOT answer my question. I HATE the idea that I would have to lose MORE hours for a "random" while doing a "34" Put that into the "new" HOS rules, with two midnight to 6am's and a team got lose more than a week of income. Is THAT a good idea? None of this makes...

When on vacation we ALWAYS take ourselves OOS. We too are white glove. You CAN do that. I don't know who told you other wise. Did you take yourself OOS prior to going on vacation? If not, why not? We take ourselves OOS EVERY time we are home for more that 24 hours.

I KNOW what FedEx says, that is not always the "LEGAL" answer according to DOT. I was predispatched since Thursday. I want to know what the LAW is. I have not the ability to determine that for myself. I cannot read, "legaleez". My fault to be sure, but it is what it is.

FedEx will NOT allow you to go OOS if pre-dispacthed. I think that If you are doing a "34" You are OOS. I sent a message to FedEx that we were "out of hours" and doing a "34". I don't know the "legal" answer to this. Do anyone?

Mine too. Green Bay is STILL the winningest team in NFL history. More chapionships than any other team. The Steelers are second in that reguard as far as I know. Not a bad game, could have been better.

I know that, I would NEVER refuse to comply. The question was, is a person on a 34 reset out of service? FedEx says no if you are pre-dispatched. Just asking real questions to problems that I do not fully understand.

I want to know what DOT says. I have trouble reading their regs. I got "randomed" 4 times in two years. Mrs. Layout has never had one. I am on a 34. I want to know what DOT says. Can THEY force me to "open a log" for a "random" I consider me off right now. What IF I am called for a random and...

By the way, I have "handled" boats on some of the most dangerous waters on this earth. Like the North Sea in England and the "Western Basin" of Lake Erie. Think Erie is not dangerous? Think again. I once brought in a 65 footer on the North Sea, a boat named the "Moby Dick" ( I did NOT name her)...

No problem. I don't drive for an owner, only myself. I, and ONLY I, decide what is safe. I would NEVER drive for an owner that does not allow me that privilege. Drive on ice? ME? NEVER!! I MIGHT make it with chains. I was raised up north and can handle more than many. Those around me are not...

ME? Do required maintenance?

I have no idea.

No offense taken!! The carrier often makes no sense, the DOT hardly ever makes sense, and neither do I!!! :p I guess that just about covers it.