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Don't let the facts get in the way of things, Turtle. That is a good way to mess up our education system. We really can't have just plain facts taught in schools. Then we would have informed voters and the government as we know it now would go away. They like 'Stupid is as stupid does"...

I think it was Jefferson but it was every 200 hundred years if I remember the quote. We are over due. Layoutshooter

17 layers Cheri? You must be using the wrong type of layering if you need that many. You should not need more than 3-5 layers to stay warm in temps down to -30F. I don't use 17 when ice fishing, without a shanty, in sub-zero temps and high winds. The secret to staying warm in extreme cold is not...

You gonna give in? I'm not. If only 10% of the LEGAL gun owners stand up and fight that will be an army of over 8 million. Since most of us can either shoot as well or outshoot the military, it would be an interesting fight. I am not sure that the Army will fight in this country. I am sure that...

Yep and all you Obama supporters want that same government that don't even know what is good for you too eat, the same government that spent EVERY penny of the Social Security surplus, that taxes acheivement and rewards laziness. You want that same government to take care of you health. I guess...

Good idea. Layoutshooter

Darn Turtle, that is twice in one day we agree!!!! But not to worry, I sure it won't last long unless you finally learn that I am right most of the time!!!! LOL!!! Just wait, under the "New Order" that Osama Obama and the New American Marxist (Dumbecrats) party are going to usher in we too will...

Approxamatly 30% of the cost of health care now is due to government regs. A large percentage is lawsuits, most are silly. The Dumbecrats fight tort reform but do you really believe that you will be allowed to sue the government once they take control? I know when I ran amublance a HUGE part of...

Now you know why the Marxists want National Health care, control of the people. They spent a lot of time lying about it's values and many many fools bought into it. Seniors were really played with the fear mongering but you bet your boots that they will be the first cut out of coverage once we...

Gee Turtle, why don't we just increase our military to a size that can handle these small deployments, bring it up to AT LEAST WW2 levels. Then bring the Reserves back to back fill active duty spots in the U.S., Europe etc. Then the National Guard could be put on the borders to seal them. Equip...

You are correct, Moot. Layoutshooter

I have a clutch pedal. Layoutshooter

I agree. I love the cold and winter, but if I have to work and can't ice fish I might as well stay south if I can. Headed for Norfolk on Monday. Layoutshooter

Watch the temps over the high plains, mid west and Great Lakes areas this week. They are calling for temps around Detroit in th -5 to -10F without the wind chill. They are saying that temps in the U.P. might get as low as -20 to -30F. Winds chills even lower. Make sure if you are headed up this...

O.M.G.!!!! Turtle agrees with me? LOL. The world must be ending!! Cool!! I can stop all my payments then!!!!!!!!! Layoutshooter

AH, sounds like our V.P. Joe (I stole that paragraph) Biden. You must be setting up for a run for office. All you need to get elected today is a good lie to fool the fools and being a criminal is a plus. Layoutshooter

Don't like my tranny eh? Thems fightin words!!!!!!! LOL. It does ok for us. we average 10mpg and have got as high as 12. I can live with it. Layoutshooter

I love it!!!!!!!!!!!!! Layoutshooter

Let's see OVM, my old fashioned "Cold War" thinking sees Russia starting to re-establish the old Soviet Union. It is starting with Russia using natrual gas as a weapon. It sees a Hitler like leader in Iran. Just wait till that bunch gets nukes and Russia gives them delivery systems that can hit...

OVM, you are falling for the "Hype" of the Leftist news papers. There are NO legal assault rifles sold in this country. Period. There are Federal laws that define the meaning of an assault rifle and under those definitions there are none sold. IN fact, none have been sold since the 1930's...