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  1. Turtle

    Time Magazine Cover

    Ironically, journalistic "ingenuity" is not a bad turn of the phrase. Ingenuity is cleverly inventive or resourceful. "Or will this undermine the journalistic ingenuity of those who think they are above the law?" Wikileaks itself is pretty ingenious, and those who think they are above the law...
  2. Turtle

    Daniel Ellsberg Calls for Boycott of Amazon.com

    In the case of the leaked documents, it's not about copyright, but it's about whether you own or control the rights to the information. In this case, Wikileaks doesn't own or otherwise control all the rights to the classified documents, which is a direct violation of Amazon's TOS. It's also a...
  3. Turtle

    Time Magazine Cover

    He can be right all day long, but dead is still dead.
  4. Turtle

    U.S. Military Tries to Intimidate Soldiers Into Not Reading Wikileaks

    Sorry, no strawman argument created here. The part that I fail to comprehend is where it says "...it seems to be the first time it's tried to prevent them from reading news stories about leaked documents." For one, "it seems" is an opinion, not a fact, stated someone who began the paragraph...
  5. Turtle

    U.S. Military Tries to Intimidate Soldiers Into Not Reading Wikileaks

    Not true. As usual, most of this has been, and is being, blown way out of proportion. Despite the Gawker article and what a "tipster" told them, no one has been told they cannot read the news, mention WikiLeaks, or discuss it, nor have all of the major news sites been blocked from the NIPRNet...
  6. Turtle

    Naming Bad Fleet Owners

    As someone who has helped run a Usenet server farm, I can tell you that serving up years of records is about three mouse clicks and takes 15 seconds, and you can do it from 2000 miles away. It's a little different with a Usenet server in that postings have a predictable lifespan (binaries, for...
  7. Turtle

    Time Magazine Cover

    I know. :D Although the question as posed was literally a request for information about whether or not you had any idea on the subject, I had hoped that the conversational implicature would have been clear. BTW, tie rod and wheel bearings are still on backorder for Monday. Good grief. I...
  8. Turtle

    WikiLeaks and Our Boorish, "In your face" Diplomacy

    That right there, actually, is the damage done by releasing the private communications of our diplomats. Foreign diplomats know that they say the same things about us, but their private cables were not released. But the people of the world, the ones that matter, they read our cables, never...
  9. Turtle

    Time Magazine Cover

    OK, since you declined to offer your opinion, I'll offer mine. The United States, publicly and privately, has been rallying the world to block Iran's nuclear program. The leaked super sekrit cables show that Iran is pursuing nuclear weapons, and everybody from Arabs to Israelis wants it to...
  10. Turtle

    Naming Bad Fleet Owners

    misc.transport.trucking, and the alt.trucking* groups, among others... Yeah, but I wasn't in trucking when I was over in Usenet everyday all day, so I never read anything in there very much. When I wasn't in the warez groups, I spent most of my time in the nuts and bolts groups, like the Newgrp...
  11. Turtle

    Time Magazine Cover

    Any idea for what purpose Assange released the cables which revealed no secrets?
  12. Turtle

    Naming Bad Fleet Owners

    That's the thing... if they had never censored (or monitored) content in the forums, they would be a de facto common carrier and wouldn't have to spend a penny to resolve anything. They can do that three-monkey deal with their hands over their eyes, ears and mouth. But once they started...
  13. Turtle

    Naming Bad Fleet Owners

    Maybe that's why he posed the question. He's right, you know. If it's the truth (the whole truth and nothing but), then you can name names and don't even have to defend it. It's up to the "named" to prove libel (or defamation). And if what you post is true, they won't be able to prove otherwise...
  14. Turtle

    The Noose tightens around Wikileaks Assange

    "And it is precisely the type of slave mindset that allows criminals to accede to power ... and to wantonly commit heinous crimes with no regard whatsoever for the consequences of their actions on others ...... with no fear of being held accountable .." I'm confused, 'cause that sounds a lot...
  15. Turtle

    If This Be Treason …

    Has the statute of limitations passed where they can charge him with treason? That's rhetorical, BTW.
  16. Turtle

    Imagine this ... I never thought I would see ...

    Oh, I've long ago gotten the picture. Even been a part of it. It's just that I don't have a Woodie for Wiki. I can see things for what they are, both sides, both good and bad. And both sides have their good and bad.
  17. Turtle

    How the new food safety bill might affect you

    All you have to do is talk to someone who's met me and they'll tell you the same thing, that I'm honest and up front, I don't mince words, and I say what I think. So you can blowhard all you want about what you can guarantee that I will or won't do, but on that note you are, indeed, full of...
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