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  1. Turtle

    Getting jacked up by the cops in Iowa right now

    I'm not perfect, don't pretend to be. Online Expediters.
  2. Turtle

    The "Trayvon" Our Media Just WILL NOT Cover

    At this point, if I had to put money on it, I'm going with the Defense. It's a very slick thing to turn a bond hearing into a discovery tool, complete with questioning a prosecution investigator, to find out what the prosecution has against you. Very slick, indeed.
  3. Turtle

    April Banter and Location

    That right there is why I don't call and bother them. They're understaffed, overworked and underpaid.
  4. Turtle

    April Banter and Location

    Need? On who's part?
  5. Turtle

    Getting jacked up by the cops in Iowa right now

    OEers passing up the opportunity to be judgmental? Puhleeze. Tickets to that, please! :D
  6. Turtle

    April Banter and Location

    Soooooo, they don't know where we are and need to be reminded of it?
  7. Turtle

    The "Trayvon" Our Media Just WILL NOT Cover

    Well, gee, I don't know. Maybe he saw the gun in a holster on Zimmerman's hip. Maybe Zimmerman told Martin that he had a gun. Maybe it was drawn. Maybe Zimmerman was holding the gun but not pointing it towards anyone. Maybe Zimmerman was creeping through the yards with the gun drawn and was...
  8. Turtle

    The "Trayvon" Our Media Just WILL NOT Cover

    Depends. If he was initially afraid for his life, or was a genuine aggressor and was itching to shoot someone, he'd probably have a quick trigger finger. If he was genuinely not wanting to have to shoot Martin, and resisted doing so until he really had no choice, that might explain why he didn't...
  9. Turtle

    April Banter and Location

    So, do you have to call and bug Jeremy to get one of his famous weekend loads? I don't know, as I've never called and bothered him, but also I've never gotten one of his famous loads, either.
  10. Turtle

    The "Trayvon" Our Media Just WILL NOT Cover

    If Zimmerman pulled his gun and threatened Martin with it, at what point should Martin have stopped beating the armed Zimmerman in self-defense to prevent from being shot? See? It can go either way. Need evidence presented at trial to help figure it out, I think.
  11. Turtle

    No longer a spokesman in my book.

    I dunno. Nugent's deer baiting incident was reported on Yahoo News, Fox News, Huffington Post, most media outlets, including the MSM, as far as I know. It was even discussed here on EO, which is a mainstream and underground media outlet all rolled into one.
  12. Turtle

    The "Trayvon" Our Media Just WILL NOT Cover

    You're the first person that I know of to suggest that the gun was drawn from the get-go, so no, I'd have to say we don't know that with any certainty at all. I can visualize a scenario where Zimmerman drew the gun at some point to prevent Martin from getting away, to hold him there while...
  13. Turtle

    No longer a spokesman in my book.

    His Misdemeanor in Alaska was in the news when it happened, and it was on the heels of him saying absolutely nothing at all. His California deer-baiting incident made the news, too, also on the heels of him saying nothing. Seems like Nugent can make the news whether he says anything or not.
  14. Turtle

    April Banter and Location

    Wasting away again in Margaritaville, Searching for my lost shaker of salt, Some people claim that there's a woman to blame, But I know it's nobody's fault. Oh, wait, that's supposed to be Rotting away in Kansas Cityville. Autocorrect is funny.
  15. Turtle

    The "Trayvon" Our Media Just WILL NOT Cover

    That's putting the cart before the horse, reaching a conclusion prior to trial. What we have so far is presumed innocence, until the charges are proven beyond a reasonable doubt. As for not pursuing Martin, I dunno, but it has been determined that both Zimmerman and his truck were at the scene...
  16. Turtle

    Getting jacked up by the cops in Iowa right now

    Thy will be done.
  17. Turtle

    The "Trayvon" Our Media Just WILL NOT Cover

    Zimmerman, who had on his person a loaded gun (in direct opposition to the rules of Neighborhood Watch where watchmen are to be unarmed), pursued Martin over the objections of police dispatchers (and in direct opposition to the rules of Neighborhood Watch where "do not pursue" is a paramount...
  18. Turtle

    Log book laws vs. rules

    Thanks for sticking to the issues and not making it personal. It always makes for a more interesting conversation when you do that.
  19. Turtle

    Log book laws vs. rules

    Of course I see a contradiction in that. Same as I can see the contradiction in the earned right of a driver's license. Common sense, reasoning and pragmatism allows me to realize that the mandated use of logs books for heavy trucks and buses is overridden by the safety of the public, and those...
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