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Lucky man, I might just be forced into joining you soon. :D Someone will have to teach you how to hunt and fish. Layoutshooter

Thanks. not bad for an old, fat, ugly guy, eh? LOL. Glad you learned something. Layoutshooter

Man, if I could re-finance my entire life at rates like that I might make it through this disaster. Layoutshooter

They are correct and so are you!! Layoutshooter

The pursuit of a difficult task builds character. I am doing you a service. :rolleyes: Layoutshooter

Hey, you can't use my old spy jokes!! It is against union rules!!! Too bad, now I can't learn anything from you. I learn nothing from your numbers and for the most part don't like polls and studies no matter who does them. I can write a poll that would get any thing I want it to do. I learn from...

If ALLLL that government spending does not start a major round of inflation this thing might end fairly fast. If inflation takes off, look out. Layoutshooter

Yeah and I would be concerned about snow and ice build up on them. Layoutshooter

Besides, OVM was just pokin fun at me. It is one of his main functions in life!! As I do him. Layoutshooter :D

I am not worried. If I do really want to write, which I did for a living for a bit, I would go into Word and use spell check. I don't ever want to write tech papers again, BORING!! I would like someday to write famliy hunting and fishing stories. Layoutshooter

I can see where this forum could be a good tool for the repo man. I had no such tools when I did that job. Layoutshooter

Yep. Layoutshooter

You are correct. It is 100% the fault of the parents. It is 100% thier responsibilty to insure that thier children are educated. We insured that ours were. We made sure that they could read and write BEFORE kindergarden age. We exposed them to as many different ideas, theroies, subjects...

Never mind. Layoutshooter

OH MAN OVM, don't look at my spelling, it sucks!! I once had a nun give me a spelling award when I got a "C" on a spelling test. It really went down hill after they invented spell check. Our education system is dumbing down, I am very aware of it. We are also slowly moving towards a more...

I was not speaking of you Mr. G. I thought we were having a fun debate. You have your numbers, I have my beliefs. It was an interesting dis-agreement. Gave others food for thought. Where did you live overseas and why? I love good stories. Layoutshooter

OVM, I did not mean to imply that only the US has the answer or the best way. I just know what I saw. The bulk of the young and bright leaving England, many came here, because they had no chance to move up in sociaty in thier native land. The tax system alone killed that. The restrictive laws...

Gee Mister world traveler, you seem to not understand the difference between subjective and objective polling. You cannot quantify things like happiness. Watch how many move our or in, that is a much better gauge of what they really think. How long did you live overseas? Layoutshooter

What I mean is all you have is numbers, no experience. Those numbers only show what they want to show. Numbers can show anything you want to. You have to see it to understand. Layoutshooter

Try this again. Layoutshooter A story to illustrate what I mean by the "focused" education system in England compared to the United States. In case you are wondering I never finish college, only have a high school diploma. I belonged to a fishing club while I lived there. It was called...