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  1. Turtle

    The Sins Of The Fathers ...

    When it denotes a specific meaning, yes. He's arguing the pedantics of infinite possibilities when his own pedantics preclude any such possibility. Can't have it both ways. Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean you need to inform the whole world that fact by ignorantly berating it.
  2. Turtle

    The Sins Of The Fathers ...

    See Thread Title You did write it, specifically. True enough the "or something" implies and allows for an infinite number of possibilities, but only right up to the point where you slapped a colon at the end of it. A colon is used to explain or start an enumeration (to mention separately, a...
  3. Turtle

    The Sins Of The Fathers ...

    Even better would have been to include that very sentiment in the OP. For clarity's sake. Of course not. Obviously. The problem comes when pure speculation is presented as something other than pure speculation. It's not a duck at all. It is a presumption, however, presumed because you offered...
  4. Turtle

    GPS Rand McNally GPS

    No GPS is perfect, but Garmin is the best of the bunch.
  5. Turtle

    It's the Zimmer Man!

    How, exactly, does my post try, convict and execute him? I posted excerpts from an AP news article that contained the facts as they were known at the time of their writing. Is it just talking about a case enough to qualify as being tried, convicted and executed? They're not hounding this guy...
  6. Turtle

    The Sins Of The Fathers ...

    You attacked the father by declaring he sinned, and directly connected that sin to his son's suicide with the colon after the "something," which left no other possibilities, much less many of them.
  7. Turtle

    The Sins Of The Fathers ...

    By starting a thread in a forum associating a suicide with the sins of the father, without providing any evidence that the two are connected. I think Paullud summed it up quite nicely. Which I observingly disagreed with. So you're just guessing that there might be some connection. I'm not. But...
  8. Turtle

    It's the Zimmer Man!

    How and where in the national spotlight is Zimmerman being vilified? I mean, considering vilified means "to speak ill of, defame, slander." All I've seen in the national spotlight is the reporting of the facts.
  9. Turtle

    The Sins Of The Fathers ...

    Where the sins of the father do indeed get passed down to his descendants, but only those sins involving breaking the covenant with God ("those who hate me"). You could (and likely will) argue that his father did exactly that, but I personally wouldn't speak for God in such matters. Possibly...
  10. Turtle

    The Sins Of The Fathers ...

    I'm still going with the "or something" rather than to try and politicize the suicide of a young man without any evidence that the sins of the father had anything whatsoever to do with it, knowingly or unknowingly, willingly or unwillingly, particularly in light of where that concept comes from...
  11. Turtle

    It's the Zimmer Man!

    Not about calling 911. Here's excerpts from an AP news story (full story at the link, emphasis mine): Dueling 911 Calls Raise Questions
  12. Turtle

    The Sins Of The Fathers ...

    Not being one to accept the blame for the sins of my own father, I'm gonna go with the "or something" until and unless something more concrete develops. Judge Milan D. Smith Jr., of El Segundo, Calif., sent this statement by email this morning to fellow judges of the U.S. Court of Appeals for...
  13. Turtle

    Could past Presidents get elected today?

    Could today's social media savvy politicians have gotten elected in times past? You think Obama would have gotten elected in 1960? I don't. :D We are, each of a us, a product of our time.
  14. Turtle

    Web Browser choice

    Same here. Not once. MSIE, sure, but never Firefox.
  15. Turtle

    An open letter to Oprah

    Despite how wild and varied this thread has become, a topic as specific as Nuttin' Yahoo and Eye-Ran probably belongs in its own thread, where it'll get the attention it deserves. Additionally, I don't think there's much doubt that "Keep in mind nobody's paying much attention to Iran right...
  16. Turtle

    An open letter to Oprah

    Well, at this point, just securing the border with Mexico is a hard line on immigration. As for what Cuccinelli believes and is thus considered a hard liner on immigration, Muttly managed to put words into my mouth quite successfully, because he's thinks he knows my own personal views on the...
  17. Turtle

    Web Browser choice

    Why? In the latest tests of Chrome, IE, Safari, and Firefox at Tom's Hardware and Amandtech, Firefox came in slightly behind the others in HTML5 support, but easily surpassed the others in speed benchmarks, security.and customizeability. Then there's the fact that Mozilla doesn't make money off...
  18. Turtle

    This might be the best Rob Ford gif yet....

    I can't stop laughing at that. :D
  19. Turtle

    An open letter to Oprah

    While he was trying to be humorous, he nevertheless did compare and equate, in context, immigration policy to D.C.'s pest control law. He has a history of being very hard line on immigration, one that fits in with extreme nationalism. In recent times (the last year or so) he's publicly softened...
  20. Turtle

    Expediter parking !

    Parking Canopy is a fancy name for Wasp Nest Shelter
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