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  1. Turtle

    November is here!

    Third row from the bottom, far left. Safety Green? Seriously?
  2. Turtle

    November is here!

    Thanks! :D
  3. Turtle

    Forum Game

    It went far beyond anything that could have even possibly happened in the Soapbox, or in any other online forum on EO.
  4. Turtle

    November is here!

    I concur. tap tap tap
  5. Turtle

    Why Is There No Outrage About This Police Shooting?

    It is horrifying. If it was an active shooter that's one thing, but even if it was a real adult black male with a real gun, he still hadn't done anything that he deserved to be killed for. They can be. And just as there's no such thing as a non lethal Airsoft pistol that fires plastic pellets...
  6. Turtle

    Congressional Cranberry Caucus

    Thanksgiving might be a good time to point out that the Congressional Cranberry Caucus is a thing. Thanks to the caucus, cranberries are exempt from school nutrition standards, and is now even an important part of the USDA's food and nutrition programs, including school lunches, despite...
  7. Turtle

    Paying a driver

    It's done a myriad of different ways. Hopefully Leo will chime in, as he has a pretty good, common sense system that, IIRC, is very fair to all concerned. If it were me, I think whoever negotiates the bonus should keep it. Border crossing, since the driver is the one who has to put up with all...
  8. Turtle

    Why Is There No Outrage About This Police Shooting?

    The veteran cop was driving, and pulled up right next to the kid, something he wouldn't do if he thought there was any imminent danger. Before he could even put it park and get out, the rookie cop had already shot. I won't go as far as to say I think it was premeditated, but there is no way that...
  9. Turtle

    From Splint to Cast in a Week

    Happened Wed morning, 11/19/14, Columbia, MO. The splint was big and bulky and heavy. Like wearing a concrete mitten. The cast is considerably lighter, and I have at least a very limited use of my fingers. Can't really make a fist yet because of the pain and the fingers are still swollen a bit...
  10. Turtle

    Why Is There No Outrage About This Police Shooting?

    Hard to know for sure, but I'd say the reason there's no outrage over this is similar to the reason that the typical people who normally go batcrap crazy over beheadings were silent over the beheading in Philly last month - it doesn't really further their own agenda.
  11. Turtle

    The madness of Fergerson

    Because it's institutionalized (by liberals), and so deeply ingrained, of course the media is going to report it (they're mostly liberals). But the media is a symptom, not the cause. If it was natural instead of institutionalized, it would be a minor issue at most. Because it's...
  12. Turtle

    Ferguson should be protesting this.

    Another thought... Illegals aren't available for Obamacare, therefore employers can't be penalized the $3000 for not providing them the insurance. So not only is there a $3000 incentive per illegal to hire as many of them as you can, you also don't have to pay out the money for the insurance in...
  13. Turtle

    Miles

    1200-1500, give or take. IMWV (Individual mileage will vary)
  14. Turtle

    Ferguson should be protesting this.

    Or, OR, OR! we could just let illegal aliens have access to Obamacare. That's the ticket! Yeah, that's the best way. We can't eliminate the employer mandate, for cryin' out loud! If we did that then employers wouldn't provide insurance to their employees, and that would affect the children.
  15. Turtle

    The madness of Fergerson

    In many ways racism is worse than many people make it out to be. It's certainly not as bad as the days of yore, up through the 50s with the Jim Crow laws. But there's always a backlash (those ever popular unintended consequences) when something is forced on people that they don't want...
  16. Turtle

    The madness of Fergerson

    Wow, that's your response to all that? I'm sure you do recall me saying that a grand jury is a trial, since you've been so spot-on with everything you've said thus far in this thread. But, no. I've never said that a grand jury is a trial, certainly not in the same sense of an adversarial jury...
  17. Turtle

    55% increase in costs, thanks Obamacare

    Sarcasm. :D
  18. Turtle

    The madness of Fergerson

    Why? I'm well acquainted and well versed on the roles, especially that of the prosecutor in a grand jury proceeding. A very good friend of mine is a Commonwealth of Kentucky Attorney, my mother was his legal secretary for 15 years. I've served the standard 4 month term as a grand juror in...
  19. Turtle

    The madness of Fergerson

    LOL No, I'm not saying that at all. But thanks for clearing up my wonder. Clearly you think a grand jury proceeding is similar to that of a trial by jury, where evidence from both sides are presented and a verdict is reached. That's not even remotely close to what it is. (It's what this circus...
  20. Turtle

    The madness of Fergerson

    A grand jury is a tool of the prosecutor. Period. Defense attorneys aren't even allowed in there. Evidence that would be excluded at trial, such as evidence excluded because of an illegal search and seizure, is admissible in a grand jury proceeding. That's because the whole purpose of a grand...
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