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  1. Turtle

    Baltimore Rioting, Looting OK According to Mayor

    Well, your point was "That's not true." Then you created a new context to prove that what I said, in another different context, was not true. That's known as a straw man argument. My phrasing is entirely different than your phrasing. Everyone in this country COULD BE targeted and stopped every...
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    Baltimore Rioting, Looting OK According to Mayor

    I didn't say "could be." I said "always likely to be." There's a difference. A big difference.
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    Baltimore Rioting, Looting OK According to Mayor

    That's because you ,as a descendant and/or benefactor of the rioters, need to feel better about the rioting, and thus prefer the more noble revolt. How about Independence engineer? A revolt is to break away from or rebel against something. A revolt is generally a rather passive action. Even as...
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    Marco Rubio steps in it.

    Read what I wrote in Post #190 - pro-life really isn't pro-life - it's anti-abortion and pro-telling other people what to do. Once you realize that pro-life is actually pro-telling other people what to do, then you'll see that pro-death penalty is along those same lines and isn't morally...
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    Baltimore Rioting, Looting OK According to Mayor

    Yeah. What's going on in Baltimore is all about Democrats versus Republicans. :rolleyes:
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    Baltimore Rioting, Looting OK According to Mayor

    I'm going to assume you're being facetious and that you don't actually believe any of that. As an example, the riots that were sparked by the Parliament's 1773 adoption of the Tax Act resulted in full-blown revolution and eventual American Independence. (cue the flag, cue the music, Mine eyes...
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    Baltimore Rioting, Looting OK According to Mayor

    The same reason they're talking about "where are the parents of these rioters?" It's a misdirection. When you're in the custody of the state, the state has a responsibility for your health and well being. He was arrested, according to the police report, "without force or incident." They put him...
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    Baltimore Rioting, Looting OK According to Mayor

    If you view it in terms of "criminality, pure and simple," then sure it is. But rioting is almost always society itself in rebellion against an injustice. Interesting phrase, "If left unanswered." To those who view rioting as "criminality, pure and simple," that means to put down the riots and...
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    Baltimore Rioting, Looting OK According to Mayor

    Of course there are ties to Ferguson. People from sea to shining sea are getting fed up with it all, and it's likely to get worse before it gets better. Ferguson and Baltimore aren't isolated. They're both symptoms of a much larger problem. Like Obama said, this isn't new, it's been going on for...
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    Baltimore Rioting, Looting OK According to Mayor

    The Chinese-American community doesn't really have a reason to riot, not a lot of system injustices they are having to endure. There have been several anti-Chinese riots in this country though, mostly by white people wanting to get rid of the local Chinese population. I do want to check with...
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    Baltimore Rioting, Looting OK According to Mayor

    The chicken or the egg? Someone who is always a likely target of police (you know, young, male, black) is gonna constantly be in trouble.
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    New Posts

    Thanks. I never noticed the "Recent Posts" link. That seems to act like the old software did in showing the "new" posts.
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    Baltimore Rioting, Looting OK According to Mayor

    Every time there's a riot, somebody (several of them) always say that. King George said it about the rioting in Boston Harbor. The entire South said that about the Union soldiers who looted businesses, and homes, and then burned them down. Yet, people keep finding reasons and excused to riot...
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    New Posts

    They show up for me. I just clicked New Posts and there are two threads with new posts (since I last viewed those threads) that showed up.
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    Baltimore Rioting, Looting OK According to Mayor

    Wow. I'm at a loss for words on that one. He has an arrest record, therefore he is bad, bad, bad, and was probably up to no good, otherwise he had no reason whatsoever to flee, so that's why they pursued him, right? So let's post this gnarly graphic of his extensive arrest history to reinforce...
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    Baltimore Rioting, Looting OK According to Mayor

    It's institutional racism. Obama didn't eliminate racism in this country by being president any more than black cops and black mayors eliminate racism in individual communities.
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    Baltimore Rioting, Looting OK According to Mayor

    Well, I didn't limit my comments solely to Baltimore, much less solely to this specific case. You did that for me. Nor is the reason for the protests and riots in Baltimore limited to what happened in Baltimore.
  18. Turtle

    Baltimore Rioting, Looting OK According to Mayor

    If it's not "at will" what would you call it? My definition of "at will" is the being conscious of a deliberate action, of being in control of one's actions. It's not like white cops are having an out-of-body experience or are unconscious, or are being forced to kill black people.
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    Baltimore Rioting, Looting OK According to Mayor

    As mad as everyone is about it, probably cheering them on. There are a lot of pissed off people, and you can't blame them. Imagine the shoe on the other foot, black majority and black cops killing white folks at will, and mostly getting away with it. Look at what's going on in Albuquerque.
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    Baltimore Rioting, Looting OK According to Mayor

    Also need to look a little closer at the stuff the mayor actually said, especially when it's in the article linked, as she did not, in fact, say that the Baltimore rioting looting were "OK." I do think it's kinda funny that if you do a Google search for "Baltimore mayor destroy" that the big...
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