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  1. layoutshooter

    CIA Workers Killed in Afghanistan as U.S. Steps Up Spying Role

    I will always stand strong my friend. I am not quite old yet but getting there fast!! LOL!! Later this year I get to crack the big 60. You didn't have a trench coat? They were standard issue by the time I went in!!! :D
  2. layoutshooter

    CIA Workers Killed in Afghanistan as U.S. Steps Up Spying Role

    Yep Wimpy, you are right. How you been? Have not seen you for a bit.
  3. layoutshooter

    CIA Workers Killed in Afghanistan as U.S. Steps Up Spying Role

    Don't worry, that core exists.
  4. layoutshooter

    A Gov "Cover Up" at Detroit Metro Airport!?!?

    You got that right Jack. We often put out too much information.
  5. layoutshooter

    CIA Workers Killed in Afghanistan as U.S. Steps Up Spying Role

    You may think it is a strawman, I don't. I can read everything you ask me too, I will be reading some for sure. That will give me another person's view. Then I will be able to bounce that off of my personal experience. If you don't have that experience yourself you only have second hand info...
  6. layoutshooter

    CIA Workers Killed in Afghanistan as U.S. Steps Up Spying Role

    (although he was an analyst, not an agent) By the way, everyone who works at an agency is an agent. It is just a term used. Agents work all kinds of jobs. I was an analyst for a while, a collection tech, collection officer, collection manager, signals analyst (not very good at that one) and a...
  7. layoutshooter

    CIA Workers Killed in Afghanistan as U.S. Steps Up Spying Role

    Security was very lax in this incident. They should know better than that. It is a very dangerous business and when you skip steps that should be taken it can be fatal.
  8. layoutshooter

    CIA Workers Killed in Afghanistan as U.S. Steps Up Spying Role

    Got it wrong on one thing, I know OVM has no first hand experience. Was not talking about you. Still no answer to a very simple question. What first hand experience do you have? Did you serve in an itell agency or in the military? I don't see how that is such a hard question to answer. Maybe...
  9. layoutshooter

    CIA Workers Killed in Afghanistan as U.S. Steps Up Spying Role

    Seriously, are you saying that the only way to have knowledge of something is in the first hand ? In the reverse, you clearly do not have firsthand knowledge of everything this nation, or it's minions, have done. Everything in life is different from the inside out. I never claimed to know...
  10. layoutshooter

    CIA Workers Killed in Afghanistan as U.S. Steps Up Spying Role

    I am well aware of mistakes this Nation has made. I am well aware of wrong doing in the CIA. No different than any organization that man is involved in. That does not put the blame of all the ills and problems we face as a nation only on their doorstep. It does not mean that everyone in that...
  11. layoutshooter

    CIA Workers Killed in Afghanistan as U.S. Steps Up Spying Role

    Are you able to answer a simple question? Do you have any first hand experience? Seems like an easy question to answer, yes or no. But then, you can't spew much with a 3 or 2 letter answer.
  12. layoutshooter

    CIA Workers Killed in Afghanistan as U.S. Steps Up Spying Role

    Who wrote what OVM? By the way, there are at least 3 others in this forum from time to time that do have first hand experience. Tell me, why is it that you choose to only believe the so-called bad stuff you read? I know you have no first hand experience, so intell agents are always bad and guilty?
  13. layoutshooter

    CIA Workers Killed in Afghanistan as U.S. Steps Up Spying Role

    It is so nice that you have such a fine image of me and my friends. I am truly sorry that I wasted the better part of my adult life working for people like you. Frankly it was not worth the effort. Amazing, please tell what first hand knowlege YOU have, if any?
  14. layoutshooter

    January 2010 Location

    Yes they can be, I have one but I am not one!!! LOL!!! :p
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    m2 106 shaking

    Both of mine were done with sleeper and box on.
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    CIA Workers Killed in Afghanistan as U.S. Steps Up Spying Role

    You got it Greg. The past is always the key to the future. On a side note. I was talking to my son that is stationed in Afghanistan today. While we were talking 2 fighter jets roared over his post, on their way to blast bad guys. It was a "sweet" sound. Give 'em HELL!!! My son says it is really...
  17. layoutshooter

    January 2010 Location

    Rolling SUV's is a common thing in our area. These S.E. Michigan and Toledo area guys do it fairly often. Lots of drikin and driven.
  18. layoutshooter

    Cold is a relative thing:

    Not even close, I was referring to Hell, Michigan. Lots of good lakes around there. It is rare for Lake Erie to freeze over completely. I think it has only done so 3 or 4 times in my lifetime. It is a relatively warm lake and there is lots of current.
  19. layoutshooter

    Cold is a relative thing:

    Funny OVM, by the way Hell has already froze over this year and I understand that the ice fishing has been quite good so far!!
  20. layoutshooter

    CIA Workers Killed in Afghanistan as U.S. Steps Up Spying Role

    I am glad you were not trying to compare those animals to real men, I can relax now. They were field agents. The thing is that most don't know what that means. The are the guys that pay the bribes to get intell, that get the favors needed, etc. It is not James Bond stuff, it is real. The...
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