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OVM, All except one has been in this business a while. The one thing I noticed is goals and needs (oh and attitude) are a lot different with that group than it is with a lot of the complainers and newbies. It maybe me but those you list, except one, seems to be looking at things a lot...

I can see in the future - Caterpillar - product of China.

So Rlent, where do libertarians sit in that mess? Social freedoms with economic freedoms? The dems and repubs both have the same problems and issues. While some are liberals, progressives and even Marxist, there are others on the other side that are conservitives, right wingers and christian...

Yes Turtle that's what they face with the entire package but the abortion issue is something that no one seems to get at all. The EO that Obama signed is limited in it's ability to restrict direct funding but not indirect funding. By the way, hasn't Wickard v. Filburn been kind of defined a...

What? Where have you all been, he is repeating what he said last month.

What? Obama must be using the same weather machine that created Katrina under Bush, it must be a thing for getting us ready for the Cap and Trade bills?

It is really funny, we have been funding abortions through different programs for 30 years. There is no executive order that can undo a lot of laws and practices, it is all about looking to appease one group without telling the truth. Stupak covers most of the upper half of the lower peninsula...

I wouldn't see an issue here if all of that is true. Did you have a risk analysis done by the way? As for discussing the customer, discussing the equipment doesn't mean id'ing the customer because there isn't a lot of confidentilty with WG or FedEx for that matter.

Why would AARP or any senior organization be for something that will eventually have a horrible affect on every user of Medicare? Get the facts? They said this will cut payments to providers and changes to Medicare will have to happen, but AARP still is for it? This bill is going to cut...

Why an LLC? And then a DBA? Do you know the difference? Don't be fooled into the corporate shell game. Do you have an accountant and a lawyer to review the advice the bank gave you?

Ok, it makes more sense but the problem may be that even with a contract in hand, there may be a risk to the bank, seeing that the truck will be paid off at the contracts end leaving the question of tight financing. In addition, the need for a specially equipped truck may also mean that if the...

Well OVM, SD needs to be like Michigan - in denial. What bad economy... it's the fault of Toyota.

It doesn't matter anyways, ever try to use Google in Chinese?

Look this means little. The laws are clear, they can dissolve ACORN but the funds and donations can be folded into another organization which can be either a start up or a like organization - which I think they have already.

Well what do you think we pretty much have now? The senate is elected without the people understanding of who the senators actually represent, most of the time it is their own interest, not the interest of the people who elect them or the interest of the state they hail from. This leaves the...

Actually I think they would be dumb to move from representing the provinces via appointments to electing by popular vote.

Hey I just got two post cards in the mail reminding me that the census is the law.

OVM, Kinda of true? So it isn't like the neighbor to the south. So here is another thing I find odd, Canada has a senate that seems to represent of all things the provinces? What does that mean? These are appointments through the General Governor - hence the Queen - right?

OVM, It seems that I am a bit confused. I was just reminded in another forum that Canada is operating under a constitutional Monarchy.

You know Turtle, you brought up a good point. When was the last time that we have had a vote that every one of the party members voted against a bill in the house?