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I remember the last contract I signed saying we were allowed to see the billing. Sent from my ADR6400L using EO Forums

Don't get upset over it, we are simply having a discussion about views. Many people smarter than any of us have had the same debate and yet it still goes on. I am perfectly willing to listen, learn, and be wrong. I have my views which have been changed significantly as I continue learning from...

I said this in a later post but I do understand that the term founding father has no definitive definition. There are certain people that everyone agrees on and there are people like Paine that are debated. Sent from my ADR6400L using EO Forums

Nope I'm not trolling, I just wanted to see proof of why people are saying that we are not a Christian nation. I'm not sure where you think I'm exhibiting revisionist history. God was brought up more than a few times by our founding fathers but people refuse to acknowledge it. The single piece...

Really you mean the way you attacked my religion and refused to provide any proof of your claims. Your right, how could I not see things your way. Sent from my ADR6400L using EO Forums

He absolutely has not always been considered a founding father. Granted there are varying definitions of founding father but the fact is that he never served in the military or signed any founding documents. Sent from my ADR6400L using EO Forums

How familiar are you with that particular treaty? Did you also know that clause was removed? Is that actually a quote from Jefferson? I can tell you it wasn't, it was taken from the treaty written by Barlow, not Jefferson. Sent from my ADR6400L using EO Forums

He was one of many propagandists in our country and he was important but very far from being a founding father. Sent from my ADR6400L using EO Forums

Decoding this it means you have no proof to back up what you believe so you are trying to convince yourself you are right by claiming I showed no proof. I gave you very solid proof from the Declaration of Independence and I can give you more if you want. So let's ignore the proof that shows...

I saw nothing in the link that said they did not want a Christian nation, can you show me the quotes that say that? E pluribus unum or out of many, one which would actually completely contradict your point that they wanted many different things. Sent from my ADR6400L using EO Forums

Well that proves my point, you want it to be different so you are grasping for straws. Thomas Paine is not a founding father so his beliefs are irrelevant to this discussion. Sent from my ADR6400L using EO Forums

When you consider the timeframe that the word was used it is pretty clear they meant God. I do show tolerance, I am not saying we should persecute others. The majority has been able to dictate what others do from the beginning, that's what voting is all about. Sent from my ADR6400L using EO Forums

I look at things from different points of view but base my decision based on the information we have. You want it to be different so you are looking for loopholes, just read the words that are there. Can you give me one quote from the link you provided that says anyone of those men is not...

I'm not sure how accurate those quotes are or if they are even real but they did not prove what you claim. The founders did not like the idea of corrupt religious leaders using religion to hold down people but not what you are claiming. Sent from my ADR6400L using EO Forums

The Tripoli Treaty is not one of our founding documents, the Declaration of Independence that mentions our Creator in it is though. I am not saying someone cannot be a practicing Muslim or Jew in this country so I am not sure what the last part of your post is about. Sent from my ADR6400L...

I am not saying they should be forced to worship but non-christians should realize that they will have to be tolerant of the majority and will may be inconvenienced. They did by guaranteeing rights by our Creator. Also, a guaranteed freedom OF something, like speech, religion, press, also...

"endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights" Game over, end of story. That is from the Declaration of Independence so my knowledge on history is just fine. This country was not established to keep people from having to deal with religion as is quite clear by the document that...

What kind of opportunity are you looking for? Driving a van for someone, a lease purchase, or something else? Sent from my ADR6400L using EO Forums

It really should be a to bad situation for atheists. We know our founders intended this country to be a Christian country by giving us guaranteed rights by our Creator. There is no separation of church and state guaranteed but there is a guarantee of freedom OF religion but not freedom FROM...

Well Margaret Sanger, the woman that started Planned Parenthood, was a supporter of eugenics and birth control to get rid of the unfit. Sent from my ADR6400L using EO Forums