sorry if I chuckle a little John...."really don't"? I'd say they just plain old don't have any period...
its hard to believe a larger type carrier would expose themselves to that risk...
Anyone know the name of these companies running penske cube vans?
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sorry if I chuckle a little John...."really don't"? I'd say they just plain old don't have any period...
its hard to believe a larger type carrier would expose themselves to that risk...
I am not saying they "think" they are correct. If you want to simply look at the surface document and turn a blind eye in the name of profit..... Correct and choosing to not look are two different things all together.
You've just made an unimpeachable and irrefutable case for the raising of line haul rates.
gotta love these discussions...again...
John
John
that won't happen till more like a whole bunch more say NO to these brokers...
It isnt hard to fake it being a multi. The carrier does not have visibility to the insurance covering the vehicles. They have one cert covering half the time one or two vehicles....so easy to say...Ok look I have a cert they are covered even if they know that policy is not the true insurance covering the vehicles running the freight. I think I have explained this maybe once or twice or like 200 posts if you search me. I could do the same thing. We don't and a number of the other mid size carriers took the same stance.
and if the other 3-5 other large carriers complied....IMO that would just inspire even more O/O's to go rogue/on thier own and forsake the bigger carriers with expensive insurance?....
John's new tag line should be The Properly Insured Carrier.
Decals on his truck may spark a conversation with the right people.
A friend of mine and his Congressman approached the Mi DOT about changing a silly law that was hampering his business.
The DOT response is we've wondered why nobody has addressed this earlier (a weird regulation regarding Oversize shipments.)
Decals on his truck may spark a conversation with the right people.
A friend of mine and his Congressman approached the Mi DOT about changing a silly law that was hampering his business.
The DOT response is we've wondered why nobody has addressed this earlier (a weird regulation regarding Oversize shipments.)
Not really. If you don't feed improperly insured carriers and help keep their trucks rolling they either go bust or decide that if they are going to be in the industry they need to step up and be compliant. I would hope more would step up, but yes I am sure some will go more rogue. Ok, I am getting back to work. I am not even sure why I feel the need to keep trying to educate and reinforcing something that should concern way more people on this board than it does.
hey ya got me and Crossroads on board....its not a waste of time....keep on educating buddy....
hey ya got me and Crossroads on board....its not a waste of time....keep on educating buddy....
Those rare moments where I quit thinking about where to dispose of his body.... LMAO.
I am feelin the love I tell ya.....
This is the best line I've read in awhile .....
Knockoff of what everyone thinks of as the knockoff ...
the direction this industry is going I can see large carriers becoming more or less extinct..with 3pls, 4 pls and brokers taking over....there just isn't the margins of profits to support the O/O and a carrier too....
Reading some news....
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EPO also has 2 that I know large 3PL's....Bounce and CGL....and they own NLM...they don't really need to run thier own vans...they could easily cut them all lose....
I went from having read a post on page two to posts on page seven the next day. I did not bother to read too much between because the posts have went so far from the original post with all kinds of non-sense between.
To keep you informed a little, some members of TEANA (The Expedite Association of North America) have been attempting to get some of the issues with what we will call "Cube Vans" addressed. We all know that most of these cube vans are GVW'd under 10,000 pounds by the manufacturers so they can be operated not subject to most DOT regulations, including Hours of Service. Most of these vans are manufactured to be used "commercially" by industries outside of trucking - like florists, bakeries, or as "rental" units. When Expediters began to purchase the units their intention was to increase load capacity by volume. Then folks wanted to have their cake and eat it too - walking both sides of the 10,000 mark to whichever side suited their immediate need (having to keep logs or having extra load capacity by weight) to their advantage. Now we see small companies utilizing these vehicle as 90% plus of their fleet - operating under the FMCSA and DOT radar. These same carriers may be operating with "multi's" - O/O's that operate for multiple carriers, may not display signage, and may or may not have the correct insurance. The TEANA member carriers will continue to attempt to address this (cube van) issue as best and quickly as we can but at the present time there are so many significant mandated, pending and proposed rulemakings that are keeping us busy.
All Expedite carriers and drivers have a dog in this fight. We all need to work together on these issues as well as just the day to day things of running all of our businesses. Seems like lately everyone is pitting themselves against each other. Drivers support other drivers and your Carrier. Carriers continue to support your drivers and our industry.
Thanks for all YOU do.
To keep you informed a little, some members of TEANA (The Expedite Association of North America) have been attempting to get some of the issues with what we will call "Cube Vans" addressed. We all know that most of these cube vans are GVW'd under 10,000 pounds by the manufacturers so they can be operated not subject to most DOT regulations, including Hours of Service. Most of these vans are manufactured to be used "commercially" by industries outside of trucking - like florists, bakeries, or as "rental" units. When Expediters began to purchase the units their intention was to increase load capacity by volume. Then folks wanted to have their cake and eat it too - walking both sides of the 10,000 mark to whichever side suited their immediate need (having to keep logs or having extra load capacity by weight) to their advantage. Now we see small companies utilizing these vehicle as 90% plus of their fleet - operating under the FMCSA and DOT radar. These same carriers may be operating with "multi's" - O/O's that operate for multiple carriers, may not display signage, and may or may not have the correct insurance. The TEANA member carriers will continue to attempt to address this (cube van) issue as best and quickly as we can but at the present time there are so many significant mandated, pending and proposed rulemakings that are keeping us busy.
All Expedite carriers and drivers have a dog in this fight. We all need to work together on these issues as well as just the day to day things of running all of our businesses. Seems like lately everyone is pitting themselves against each other. Drivers support other drivers and your Carrier. Carriers continue to support your drivers and our industry.
Thanks for all YOU do.
bfields115
Seasoned Expediter
Thanks for posting, as well as reading this thread, John Mueller.
You are a heck of a nice guy John and I believe you believe in what you say but....all while PTL is in the middle of redoing contracts for a .05 rate reduction in the CV market....thats some support right there....is your staff taking a rate cut across the board, as well?.....
In a small operation, cutting pay for the office would often cost you more than you save.
Can you afford to let staff move to another carrier ?
They actually need a raise just to deal daily with the soon to be grumpier drivers.
Can you afford to let staff move to another carrier ?
They actually need a raise just to deal daily with the soon to be grumpier drivers.