What's Wrong With the Republican Party?

[ATeam]

That’s why the Left is so desperate to have Trump disqualified or removed from running for president. Without him, the party will have little chance of winning a majority.

In case you did not notice, the Republicans LOST NY-03. Trump had little to do with this race. The Republicans lost it all on their own. Having Trump involved in local races or on the ballot when local races are also on the ballot will not change the fact that the Republicans are out of step with the American public, and they will lose their House majority because of it.

Americans want abortion rights. The Republicans oppose that.
Americans want an immigration solution. The Republicans just torpedoed that.

You're talking about the winning side in this race being desperate. I'm talking about the winning side, actually winning this election and thereby further eroding the Republican House majority. You're talking about how the other side feels. I'm talking about how the other side won. It does not matter how the other side feels. It matters that the other side now has an additional seat in the House.

 

[muttly]

Trump is running around 10 points ahead of his party in the polls. Americans must see something they like in him compared to the party.
Like I said before, the next national election will be presidential. There will be coattails from Trump with candidates. How much and how many candidates will benefit remains to be seen. But he’s much more popular than the party and in step with the American public.

 

[muttly]

To my point from previous post :

 

[Ragman]

Quote of the Night


Regarding the question raised by this thread, "What's Wrong With the Republican Party?," Nehis seems to think the problem is the Republicans have failed "to get into the slop with the pigs."

That is just too funny!

 

[muttly]

But accurate:
How is that Senator Menendez expulsion coming along? Anything from Schumer?
Crickets…

 

[ATeam]

What's Wrong With the Republican Party? Their Immigration Blunders.

If yesterday's special election in NY-03 US House race is any indication, what's wrong with the Republican Party is the Republicans' major blunder on immigration. With immigration, and by following Trump's lead, House Republicans fumbled the immigration ball and the Democrats now own the issue. The Republicans made this race all about immigration and they totally blew it by torpedoing the bipartisan immigration bill in Congress. The voters noticed. By torpedoing this bill, the Republicans self-neutralized their ability to use the immigration issue to their benefit. CNN explains it thus (bold emphasis mine"):
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If Republicans can't win on immigration in New York's 3rd Congressional District, where could they win on it?​

Republicans believed that New York's 3rd District was the perfect venue for them to test drive their immigration message. There is a migrant shelter on the edge of the district and there have been headlines, like one last week of migrants attacking NYPD.

Most voters brought up immigration as a key issue, but Democrat Tom Suozzi — like many vulnerable Democrats who are hoping to win in November — was able to flip the script on the issue.

Suozzi showed up to his opponent Mazi Pilip's press event where she railed on immigration, waited until she finished then held his own impromptu press event where he accused her of not solving the issue, just talking about it.

She argued the Senate compromise was inadequate. He argued it was the best option on the table. It's a message Democrats in the House and in the Senate in states like Ohio and Montana could emulate on the campaign trail.

 

[Pilgrim]

This is a blue district in a deep blue state, so the Democrat victory came as no surprise. Suozzi has been active there for 30 years and served three terms already, so everyone there knows him. Pilip had virtually no chance from the beginning. The main problem in this situation was Santos, who should never have been nominated in the first place. The NY GOP is to blame for that.

 

[coalminer]

MSN

BUSTED!!!

But this does fit the GOP playbook, find a picture then create a story that lets you create anger and resentment towards you opponents.

I know Trump does not want to accept this but:

In fact, in 2019, border encounters during the Trump administration were higher than any year of the Obama administration. Instability spurred by Donald Trump resulted in a historic spike of migrants to the United States. Encounters substantially dropped during the height of the COVID pandemic before increasing again due to instability it caused throughout the world, exacerbated by Trump’s mishandling of the deadly disease.

The only thing I disagree with in that statement is that somehow Trump "mishandled" the pandemic. He did what was required of him, it was his worshippers that refused to do their part.

 

[ATeam]

This is a blue district in a deep blue state, so the Democrat victory came as no surprise. Suozzi has been active there for 30 years and served three terms already, so everyone there knows him. Pilip had virtually no chance from the beginning. The main problem in this situation was Santos, who should never have been nominated in the first place. The NY GOP is to blame for that.

It is a swing district in a blue state. It went red last election.

Last time, the Democrats lost the election because they fumbled the cash-bail ball. This time, the Republicans lost the election because they fumbled the immigration ball, and because they were out of step with voters on abortion rights. This has implications for all 2024 races.

Immigration and abortion rights are issues in all districts. It's about more than a single weak Republican candidate in NY-03, as if she was the only factor. The more Republicans embrace the weak candidate in a (falsely characterized) blue district, the more their pain will be eased, and the more US House elections they will continue to lose.

 

[muttly]

This is a blue district in a deep blue state, so the Democrat victory came as no surprise. Suozzi has been active there for 30 years and served three terms already, so everyone there knows him. Pilip had virtually no chance from the beginning. The main problem in this situation was Santos, who should never have been nominated in the first place. The NY GOP is to blame for that.

A relative newcomer that wasn’t MAGA.

 

[Pilgrim]

It is a swing district in a blue state. It went red last election.

And for the 10 yrs before that it was Blue. Regardless, Suozzi was the better candidate and outspent Pilip more than 3:1 during the campaign. also factoring into the equation is the fact that Pilip has been a registered Democrat for the past 12 yrs and only recently changed her affiliation. Suozzi also ran his campaign from the center, but it's highly unlikely he'll keep that position when he starts voting in Congress. The Democrats own NY, and the results of this one district can't be considered to be a barometer for the entire country.

 

[muttly]

It was also his old seat.

 

[ATeam]

A Republican Misstep of National Importance

In seemingly every special election for a US House or Senate seat, the talking heads on TV like to talk about what that election means for the nation and upcoming general elections. But a special election is just that, a special election in a single district or state. They talk it up because there are no other elections going on, but the single election itself has more to do with its local dynamics than anything else.

Immigration was a big issue in the NY-03 special election. The Democratic winner successfully flipped the script on immigration, effectively taking the issue away from the Republicans who thought they owned it. He did that on the ground locally against a Republican some Republicans characterize as weak.

But that did not happen in a vacuum. Had US House Republicans not torpedoed the bipartisan bill that would have addressed many immigration issues, and given Republicans a number of things they have sought for years, the NY-03 script-flipping would not have been possible. Yes, the Democrats won NY-03 on immigration, but without the astounding sabotage House Republicans provided, at Trump's behest, that win might have gone the other way.

The special election is local but the House Republican immigration solution sabotage is national. That is an item of national importance and a gift to Democrats in every US House swing district. .

 

[Ragman]

Rut ro

House investigators scrutinize Rep. Matt Gaetz's defunct federal criminal sex trafficking probe​

House investigators scrutinize Rep. Matt Gaetz's defunct federal criminal sex trafficking probe

Investigators with the House Ethics Committee continue to look into the conduct of Rep. Matt Gaetz and have in recent weeks reached out to witnesses and the Justice Department for information.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[muttly]

And for the 10 yrs before that it was Blue. Regardless, Suozzi was the better candidate and outspent Pilip more than 3:1 during the campaign. also factoring into the equation is the fact that Pilip has been a registered Democrat for the past 12 yrs and only recently changed her affiliation. Suozzi also ran his campaign from the center, but it's highly unlikely he'll keep that position when he starts voting in Congress. The Democrats own NY, and the results of this one district can't be considered to be a barometer for the entire country.

It was Biden plus 8 in 2020.

 

[ATeam]

A GOP Purge to Come?

This article discusses a possible purge that may come to the national Republican Party. I have not been following the events closely, but I hear of state Republican Parties where pro-Trump people take control and run the organizations into the ground. If Trump seats his hand-picked people in the national GOP, and they do what MAGA leaders do, the national GOP will be run into the ground too.

Political parties are designed to help all party endorsed candidates in all races at all levels. We're now seeing the national GOP become a Trump-dedicated party with little regard to anything or anyone else. That's great for Trump supporters, but leaves nothing for all others. It give all others little reason to support or remain part of the Republican Party.

Trump’s RNC Takeover Is on the Brink of Becoming a ‘Purge’

From top to bottom, the national GOP organization could soon be rid of anyone seen as insufficiently MAGA.

www.thedailybeast.com

 

[Ragman]

A GOP Purge to Come?

This article discusses a possible purge that may come to the national Republican Party. I have not been following the events closely, but I hear of state Republican Parties where pro-Trump people take control and run the organizations into the ground. If Trump seats his hand-picked people in the national GOP, and they do what MAGA leaders do, the national GOP will be run into the ground too.

Political parties are designed to help all party endorsed candidates in all races at all levels. We're now seeing the national GOP become a Trump-dedicated party with little regard to anything or anyone else. That's great for Trump supporters, but leaves nothing for all others. It give all others little reason to support or remain part of the Republican Party.

Trump’s RNC Takeover Is on the Brink of Becoming a ‘Purge’

From top to bottom, the national GOP organization could soon be rid of anyone seen as insufficiently MAGA.

www.thedailybeast.com

If the civil war and dumpster fire that is the Michigan GOP is any indication, yes, the national party is in for a world of hurt.

Judge allows lawsuit seeking to oust Kristina Karamo as Michigan GOP chair to go forward

Kent County Circuit Court Judge J. Joseph Rossi's ruling was a victory for Kristina Karamo's opponents within the Michigan Republican Party.

www.detroitnews.com

 

[muttly]

If the civil war and dumpster fire that is the Michigan GOP is any indication, yes, the national party is in for a world of hurt.

Be that as it may in Michigan, Trump is leading in multiple polls in Michigan over Biden. Republicans are likely to benefit from Trump’s coattails in the upcoming Presidential election, like in 2016, and 2020.

 

[ATeam]

Be that as it may in Michigan, Trump is leading in multiple polls in Michigan over Biden. Republicans are likely to benefit from Trump’s coattails in the upcoming Presidential election, like in 2016, and 2020.

You are placing a lot of faith in Trump's coattails; the coattails of a man who cannot fill a rally like he used to, and who is racking up one loss after another in court; an adjudicated rapist, fraudster, defamer, and tax cheat.

 

[muttly]

You are placing a lot of faith in Trump's coattails; the coattails of a man who cannot fill a rally like he used to, and who is racking up one loss after another in court.

Name a current politician that can have a bigger crowd?