War for oil

simon says

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Well, for all you disbelievers and confusionists, you cannot now say you didn't hear it from the "horses mouth". Finally, a little truth in advertising, from Alan Greenspan, of all people. Gates is just doing a lame cover-up for his new boss (and as the song goes, same as the old boss).

Greenspan claim war is about oil...
 

Lawrence

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Why isn't "war for oil" legitimate? Oil is a basic commodity that if as a nation we are deprived of it – our economy will be destroyed.

Oil is the lifeblood of our economy.

If that isn't a justifiable cause - I don't know what is.

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copdsux

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Charter Member
So, by that logic, if Belgium invaded Arkansas, to occupy the Crater
of Diamonds, because their economy is based on a steady supply of
diamonds, it would be okay?
 

highway star

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Owner/Operator
Oil lubricates the economy of the world. It's free flow is, without a doubt, critical. It's part of every aspect of what happens every day. Diamonds, ummm, aren't.
 

arkjarhead

Veteran Expediter
If Belguim invaded Arkansas they'd be getting out of here in a hurry. Bunch of Rednecks+Hunting Rifles= Bad Situation.:)
 

Jayman

Expert Expediter
If Belgium helped put our President in office, if our President was using WMD against his own people, etc. then maybe Belgium should.
 

mrgoodtude

Not a Member
>If Belguim invaded Arkansas they'd be getting out of here in
>a hurry. Bunch of Rednecks+Hunting Rifles= Bad Situation.:)
LMAO ROLF Arky you da man.
Mike
 

arkjarhead

Veteran Expediter
I don't think it would come to that because it's to many crazies in this country to let the governmet rise up against us. That's why I advocate every grown man owning a firearm. That way we can defend our homeland.
 

buckeyewildman

Seasoned Expediter
>Well, for all you disbelievers and confusionists, you cannot
>now say you didn't hear it from the "horses mouth".
>Finally, a little truth in advertising, from Alan Greenspan,
>of all people. Gates is just doing a lame cover-up for his
>new boss (and as the song goes, same as the old boss).
>
>Greenspan claim war is about oil...
AND YOUR POINT IS?
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
Simon,

And what is the big deal?

Did you read the book?

I can’t understand how people can complain about this when they drive their SUVs and Escalades around (or in some cases drive their limos and fly their private planes), can you answer this? I don’t think so.

I listened to Randi Rhodes today and wanted to pull her through the speaker and slap her. She was going on about this going to war for oil cr*p without telling the rest of the story.

See she forgot to tell the listeners that she and her party of dummies are as much to blame for the war as Bush, Cheny and anyone else for that matter. In other words, it is so simple that a blind man can see it the inability of the majority of people to think outside of the idiot box, worrying about OJ and Brittney, they don’t want to change, they enjoy being complacent in their life style without realizing that everything – I MEAN EVERYTHING has to do with OIL. Everything from food to diapers to the XM radio to the phone to what ever has to do with OIL – there is no exception to this rule. Our entire economy is based on OIL not corn or anything else.

SO how does going into Iraq have to do with OIL?

Well we are not there to steal the oil from the Iraqis but the intention was to remove one unstable problem and replace it with a democracy. I can’t stand the word but I will have to use it because it is closer to the truth than the billions that Exxon has made off the war. The problem is the dummies here don’t get the idea that the Iraqis idea of a democracy is different from ours and I remember the Air America/Moveon crowd complained about the fact that the Iraqis didn’t copy our constitution, included religion and don’t view democracy as we do.

See our enemies know what would hurt us, it is energy. They can kill us but remove our ability to move, buy or create – they got us – all of that takes energy. We allow ourselves to forget the attack on 9/11 then we tolerate people being caught trying to do something to us (you know that we have had other terrorist attacks on our soil since but the media and liberals don’t call them attacks, like the Muslim who went nuts at the Jewish center screaming he will kill all the Jews or how about the Muslims who were caught with pipe bombs and other stuff to kill people maybe it is time we demand that our universities stop accepting foreigners in our schools?) but we don’t want to change the most fundamental thing that would protect us – our energy.

I am trying to pull my non-profit together again, alone without help, and I m hitting this wall. No one cares about this issue, they want to complain about something in their lives and when something happens, they are the first to cry about it. I am dumping my money into getting something started to help but no one is interested.

Why don’t you help us out with the energy issue if you are so passionate the political issue? Start with being involved with the politics of your state, get together with people and demand the state to help people buy solar panels or cutting back on state business by having people drive less.

Many people can’t see the correlation between terrorism, Iraq, our economy and OIL and many more don’t allow themselves to understand the big picture and how they can change things – you libs, don’t give to Obama or hillary or God help you Edwards, take that money and put it to use by working with people who will invest it in things like wind power or CSA? Think about this, the amount of money these three have raised so far can provide a lot of things to help us out and this is only their primary election money.

Did anyone catch the flying nun and her comment about the war at the ememies?
 

letzrockexpress

Veteran Expediter
There remains aproximately 1.8 trillion barrels of oil in the world today. Nearly 1.5 trillion of that lies in North America. It is quite true that life as we know it would cease to exist without oil.No one with any sense can dispute that. We should,IMHO, be using our own oil.
Let the sunnis and the shiites and the kurds have their own oil. China will swoop in and they can deal with those wackos. Our troops could then leave the arabian soil that Bin Laden says we are desecrating just by being there, which he stated as one of the reasons his people attacked the WTC. I wonder what Alah would think of that??
 

arkjarhead

Veteran Expediter
well if we used our own oil we might hurt a flower or injure a bird. they are far more men and women in uniform. yeah right. i wish those tree huggers would give it a rest.
 

copdsux

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Charter Member
Source: Oil & Gas Journal, Vol. 103, No. 47(12/19/05)

Worldwide provable oil reserves: 1292.6 billion barrels.

US share: 21.4 billion barrels(less than 2% of the world's oil)
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
There remains aproximately 1.8 trillion barrels of oil in the world today. Nearly 1.5 trillion of that lies in North America. It is quite true that life as we know it would cease to exist without oil.No one with any sense can dispute that. We should,IMHO, be using our own oil.

Letzrockexpress

I Agree with you 100% but the problem is looking at the history of Oil in the US, we are now more politically involved with every aspect of Oil than ever. The Sad thing is as mentioned is the fact that we may hurt a flower or bird or worst, an insect if we mention oil – There is more to environmentalism than just protecting the animals or plants, it also has a lot to do with national security. The people who are so far to the left and the politicians who bow to them (most of the them are democrats) have yet come up with any – I mean any solutions for our country and they are to blame just as much as everyone else for what mess we are in.

I want to see the great lakes tapped for oil, I want to see the oil off the coast of Florida being extracted, I want to see the gulf oil not going to our enemies or Mexico or China but in our tanks. We as a country should be aggressive in our own backyard first, make use of our technology first and move forward. If we open up areas for oil, the jobs will follow and so on.

Oh one last thing speaking of Greenspan’s comments in his book, I am wondering if anyone caught his comments about the economy and the present credit ‘crisis’?
 

redytrk

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Charter Member
>Did anyone catch the flying nun and her comment about the war at the ememies?

YES...FOX bleeped it out. CNN ran it.
 

arkjarhead

Veteran Expediter
Here are my questions. Why do we export so much of our oil only to import arab oil? Doesn't make much sense to me. Or why are American oil drillers restricted by the government on how many barrells they can pump a day? The reason I know this is true is because one of my great uncles owns 2 oil wells in oklahoma. It doesn't make much sense. Why aren't new refineries being built so we can refine more oil into fuel? If fuel prices went down then there would be less money for the goverenment to line thier pockets with.


I love my country, but I fear and distrust my government.
 

letzrockexpress

Veteran Expediter
Back in the 80's when the oil glut was going on, Many of the oil companies dismantled some of their refineries so as to cause a gasoline shortage that would drive the price back up to where it was before. It worked. The problem now is that in the mean time the government created a whole lot of environmental regulations that would affect any new refineries to be built in the future. The result today is aproximately 100 permits necessary to open a new refinery costing a total of nearly 1 billion dollars and taking between 5 and 7 years to get...
 
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fastlane_frt

Guest
the truth is simple.....if we wanted oil we would invade canada, they are our #2 supplier, Iraq is about 14th, why waste our time. If we wanted it we could take it from many other places closer.....The problem is the bottle neck caused by our liberal socialist democrats who will not let us drill for oil in our own country or build new refineries.... call your new congress the the young uneducated americans voted in and say thanks, idiots
 

letzrockexpress

Veteran Expediter
Huh?invade Canada?? and what does being a socialist have to do with caring about the environment?? what was that you were saying about the "uneducated" members of the new congress??
 
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