This is whacko...

OntarioVanMan

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what an obvious loophole....even I could vote...

Ruling strikes down part of Arizona Voter ID law
AP

By BOB CHRISTIE, Associated Press Bob Christie, Associated Press – Tue Oct 26, 8:52 pm ET

PHOENIX – A federal appeals court on Tuesday struck down a key part of Arizona's law requiring voters to prove they are citizens before registering to vote and to show identification before casting ballots.

The decision by a three-judge panel of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals found the law requiring voters to prove their citizenship while registering is inconsistent with the National Voter Registration Act. That federal law allows voters to fill out a mail-in voter registration card and swear they are citizens under penalty of perjury, but doesn't require them to show proof as Arizona's law does.

The ruling left in place a requirement that voters provide proof of identity when casting ballots.

Lawyers for several civil rights groups that sued argued thousands of Arizonans have had their federal registration forms rejected because they failed to provide other documents required by the state. That violates the federal law, they argued.

The state law in question, Proposition 200, was passed by voters in 2004. It required proof of citizenship during voter registration and of identity at the polls, and also while receiving certain state benefits.

It has been upheld by state and federal courts until Tuesday's decision.

In a statement, one of the attorneys who argued the case said his group was "elated" by the decision.

"This will enable the many poor people in Arizona who lack driver's licenses and birth certificates to register to vote," said Jon Greenbaum, legal director for the Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights Under Law.

Arizona Attorney General Terry Goddard's office issued a statement saying it intends to ask a full panel of 9th Circuit judges to reconsider the case.

The ruling applies only to voter registration and the deadline for voting in the Nov. 2 general election has passed, so it will have no practical effect on voting, the statement said.

Appeals Court Judge Sandra S. Ikuta's opinion was joined by retired U.S. Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor, who heard the case as a temporary appeals court judge. Ikuta said the federal voter registration law laid out specific requirements for the mail-in registration form that the state can't make more onerous.
 

witness23

Veteran Expediter
Yeah....I don't agree with it either. Somewhere at sometime you should need to prove citizenship.
 

bobwg

Expert Expediter
THat opens the door for illegals to vote since they dont have to show proof of citizenship ah well whats they saying in Chicago? oh yes vote early and often , even the dead will be voting
 

Turtle

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Retired Expediter
In 2005, the U.S. Government Accountability Office found that 3 percent of the 30,000 individuals called for jury duty from voter registration rolls over a two-year period in just one U.S. District Court (Florida) were not U.S. citizens. 900 of 'em, in one district. While 3 percent may not seem like many, just 3 percent of registered voters would have been more than enough to provide the winning presidential vote margin in Florida in 2000. And if you're an illegal and have the balls to register to vote, I'm guessing you have a 90% or better voter turnout for elections. It ain't all that hard to fake a driver's license in order to show ID at the voting booth.

The Census Bureau estimates that there are over a million illegal aliens in Florida, and the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) has prosecuted more non-citizen voting cases in Florida than in any other state. Granted, the GAO did not determine which nationalities the illegals were from, and if they were Cuba they probably voted Republican, but that's hardly the point (then again, the DOJ prosecutes more of 'em in Florida than any other state, and if they were voting Democrat that might not be the case. Discuss :D ).

And that was just one U.S. District Court, in Florida, where an estimate one million illegals reside. What about states with a really, really lot of illegals, like Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, California, Nevada? Three percent is serious money.

Most US citizens don't vote. But still, just because we don't, doesn't mean we should be letting non-citizens vote for us instead.

There was a mayor’s race in Compton, California, for example, where non-citizen aliens testified under oath in court that they voted in the election. In that case, a candidate who was elected to the city council was permanently disqualified from holding public office in California for soliciting non-citizens to register and vote. The fact that non-citizens registered and voted in the election would never have been discovered except for the fact that it was a very close election and the incumbent mayor, who lost by less than 300 votes, contested it.

Remember Bob Dornan? A 1996 congressional race in California may have been stolen by non-citizen voting. Republican incumbent Bob Dornan was defending himself against challenger Democrat Loretta Sanchez. Sanchez won the election by just 979 votes, and Dornan contested the election in the U.S. House of Representatives. His challenge was dismissed after an investigation by the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform turned up only 624 invalid votes by non-citizens who were present in the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) database because they had applied for citizenship, as well as another 124 improper absentee ballots.

The investigation, however, could not detect illegal aliens, who were not in the INS records. That would have required effort.

The Oversight Committee pointed out the elephant in the room: “If there is a significant number of ‘documented aliens,’ aliens in INS records, on the Orange County voter registration rolls, how many illegal or undocumented aliens may be registered to vote in Orange County?

There is a strong possibility that, with only about 200 votes determining the winner, enough undetected illegal aliens registered and voted to change the outcome of the election. This is particularly true since the California Secretary of State complained that the INS refused his request to check the entire Orange County voter registration file, and no complete check of all of the individuals who voted in the congressional race was ever made.

Awesome.
 
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