The Trump Card...
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They’re too busy gaslighting.For those who have conveniently forgotten about Obama's actions against Libya and Somalia.
How Obama dropped more than 26K bombs on 7 countries without congressional approval in 2016
Obama did not obtain an act from Congress to conduct his military operations; however, his actions were not illegal.www.yahoo.com
It's called precedent and Obama knew he had it. Several presidents have used it dating all the way back to Harry Truman.
That's not what I said. I'm defending a president's right to take military action. While we're at it let's remember Bill Clinton's bombing of Serbia for 78 days in 1999. Even though he destroyed a considerable amount of civilian infrastructure nobody mentioned a thing about war crimes or humanitarian outrage. By the way neither one of those were considered to be major wars and neither is this one.
Also, intelligence was that Iran would hit our bases in the M.E. If they were attacked by another country. This was a defensive maneuver of an imminent attack. I expect our president to protect our troops from an attack. The constitution provides for him to do that as well.
Tricky the way this article is presented. . It makes it look like Senator Ron Johnson said the word “Vile” because his photo is on the cover of the article. When you go to click on the link, you see a longer quote by Johnson but nowhere does he use the word “Vile”. In reading the article it was actually Tucker Carlson that said it.'Vile.' Trump's threat to Iran's infrastructure enflames MAGA tensions
'Vile.' Trump's threat to Iran's infrastructure enflames MAGA tensions
“I do not want to see us start blowing up civilian infrastructure. I do not want to see that," said Wisconsin GOP Sen. Ron Johnson, a Trump ally.www.usatoday.com
Impeachment Watch
It's no surprise that US House Democrats are increasingly calling for Trump's impeachment and that articles of impeachment have been previously filed by them.
It's also a fact that the Republican majority is razor-thin. For a successful impeachment vote, only 2 or 3 Republicans need to cross over to vote with the Democrats.
A growing number of major Republican names are literally declaring Trump to be insane (see the names and quotes here). This shifting sentiment is an indicator. Trump has always been just a few votes away from impeachment. But these days, Republican crossovers may not be that hard to find. Trump's outrageous posts and actions of late have a number of House Republicans deeply concerned.
My eyes are on these Republicans for their pro-impeachment vote:
1. Any one of the 36 House Republicans who have announced they are not running for re-election to their House seats. Of those, 20 are running for other offices, 16 are retiring from public office entirely.
The 16 have no primary to fear or future election to be concerned about.
A few or all of the 20 may see the massive anti-war sentiment of the electorate and calculate that an impeachment vote is the right move.
2. Dan Newhouse (R-WA): One of the Republicans who voted to impeach in 2021. "The rhetoric we’ve seen over the last 48 hours—specifically the threats of 'annihilation'—is not the language of a rational leader. It is deeply unhinged. We are seeing a total absence of the mental guardrails required to manage a global conflict. I am listening closely to my colleagues about the 25th Amendment, because the current trajectory is unsustainable."
3. Victoria Spartz (R-IN): She has publicly questioned the President’s "mental focus" and "irrational" decision-making. Spartz has a history of independent voting and has previously signaled that she will not support a "leadership crisis" during a war.
4. Thomas Massie (R-KY): Massie has been the most vocal sitting member using "removal" language. By calling the current war footing "pure madness" and describing the President as "unhinged from the law," he has positioned himself as the most likely lead for a GOP impeachment push on constitutional grounds.
5. Ken Buck (R-CO): "We cannot have a Commander-in-Chief who believes the Constitution is an 'optional' document during a crisis. These threats to strike civilian infrastructure without a single vote from this body are illegal and dangerous. It’s a level of impulsive governance that we simply haven't seen before, and it puts our entire system of checks and balances at risk."
6. Chip Roy (R-TX): "I’m looking for a strategy, and all I’m seeing is a Twitter feed. You can't lead a war on vibes and expletives. This is erratic, it’s unstable, and it’s not what we promised the people. If the President cannot articulate a constitutional basis for 'Power Plant Day,' then we have a serious crisis of leadership on our hands."
It's no surprise that US House Democrats are increasingly calling for Trump's impeachment and that articles of impeachment have been previously filed by them.
It's also a fact that the Republican majority is razor-thin. For a successful impeachment vote, only 2 or 3 Republicans need to cross over to vote with the Democrats.
A growing number of major Republican names are literally declaring Trump to be insane (see the names and quotes here). This shifting sentiment is an indicator. Trump has always been just a few votes away from impeachment. But these days, Republican crossovers may not be that hard to find. Trump's outrageous posts and actions of late have a number of House Republicans deeply concerned.
My eyes are on these Republicans for their pro-impeachment vote:
1. Any one of the 36 House Republicans who have announced they are not running for re-election to their House seats. Of those, 20 are running for other offices, 16 are retiring from public office entirely.
The 16 have no primary to fear or future election to be concerned about.
A few or all of the 20 may see the massive anti-war sentiment of the electorate and calculate that an impeachment vote is the right move.
2. Dan Newhouse (R-WA): One of the Republicans who voted to impeach in 2021. "The rhetoric we’ve seen over the last 48 hours—specifically the threats of 'annihilation'—is not the language of a rational leader. It is deeply unhinged. We are seeing a total absence of the mental guardrails required to manage a global conflict. I am listening closely to my colleagues about the 25th Amendment, because the current trajectory is unsustainable."
3. Victoria Spartz (R-IN): She has publicly questioned the President’s "mental focus" and "irrational" decision-making. Spartz has a history of independent voting and has previously signaled that she will not support a "leadership crisis" during a war.
4. Thomas Massie (R-KY): Massie has been the most vocal sitting member using "removal" language. By calling the current war footing "pure madness" and describing the President as "unhinged from the law," he has positioned himself as the most likely lead for a GOP impeachment push on constitutional grounds.
5. Ken Buck (R-CO): "We cannot have a Commander-in-Chief who believes the Constitution is an 'optional' document during a crisis. These threats to strike civilian infrastructure without a single vote from this body are illegal and dangerous. It’s a level of impulsive governance that we simply haven't seen before, and it puts our entire system of checks and balances at risk."
6. Chip Roy (R-TX): "I’m looking for a strategy, and all I’m seeing is a Twitter feed. You can't lead a war on vibes and expletives. This is erratic, it’s unstable, and it’s not what we promised the people. If the President cannot articulate a constitutional basis for 'Power Plant Day,' then we have a serious crisis of leadership on our hands."
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I'm advocating for those "rights" to be trimmed back to what the Founding Fathers envisioned. Congress needs to retake the power it has ceded over the years in this regard. That said, Trump's unilateral actions that he himself classified as war are illegal and unconstitutional. They are impeachable offenses, and that may well be about to happen. See this.
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