The Trump Card...

ATeam

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Ukraine isn’t our war. Yet we bail out NATO countries with billions of dollars there. NATO countries failed the test about the Strait Of Hormuz. They benefit the upside of the Strait being open but are useless and unwilling to help the U.S if needed. Trump will duly note that next time they want more money to cover their AZZ in Europe. Reap what you sow.
NATO failed and continues to fail in it's response to the Ukraine/Russia war that Russia started by illegally invading Ukraine. While Ukraine is not a NATO member, the threat to NATO was clear. NATO (including the US) should have responded with force instead with diplomacy and a few weapons at a time. Biden pussy-footed around trying to not escalate things when Russia blatantly and forcefully violated Ukraine's sovereignty.

In fairness, we did not know at the time that Russia's army, though large, was as weak, ineffective, and internally rotten as it was. But we still should have given Ukraine far more support far more faster than we did. That would have ended that war years ago.

Regarding what Trump duly notes, that is irrelevant for two reasons. 1. Congress, not Trump, decides to fund and/or withdraw from NATO. 2. Trump's credibility has eroded.

The Supreme Court greatly limited his tariff power. His approval rating in America has cratered. It is widely expected that Trump's power will be further limited when the Democrats retake the House in the midterm elections and possibly the Senate. Other nations, large and small, are finding it increasingly easy to say no to a leader they increasingly see as a fool who acts on impulse, without heeding the advice of competent advisors.

Trump is a fool with a flamethrower, which is an increasingly dangerous situation as his dementia progresses and his impulse control degrades. That danger is exemplified in the war he just started.
 
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muttly

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NATO failed and continues to fail in it's response to the Ukraine/Russia war that Russia started by illegally invading Ukraine. While Ukraine is not a NATO member, the threat to NATO was clear. NATO (including the US) should have responded with force instead with diplomacy and a few weapons at a time. Biden pussy-footed around trying to not escalate things when Russia blatantly and forcefully violated Ukraine's sovereignty.

In fairness, we did not know at the time that Russia's army, though large, was as weak, ineffective, and internally rotten as it was. But we still should have given Ukraine far more support far more faster than we did. That would have ended that war years ago.

Regarding what Trump duly notes, that is irrelevant for two reasons. 1. Congress, not Trump, decides to fund and/or withdraw from NATO. 2. Trump's credibility has eroded.

The Supreme Court greatly limited his tariff power. His approval rating in America has cratered. It is widely expected that Trump's power will be further limited when the Democrats retake the House in the midterm elections and possibly the Senate. Other nations, large and small, are finding it increasingly easy to say no to a leader they increasingly see as a fool.
Oh yes. I forgot to add that Ukraine isn’t even part of NATO.lol But here we are pumping well over a hundred billion on a war in a country that isn’t even in NATO. Europe countries want us to cover the tab on the Ukraine war and then they don’t want to help us if needed while benefiting from business in the Strait. Mooching much? And then you have the Left rationalizing and making lame excuses that this is somehow Trump’s fault instead of calling it like it is : Freeloading.
 
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