Supreme Court Upholds Individual Mandate

paullud

Veteran Expediter
Well he just raised taxes on the middle class, gee I wonder what happened to Obama's promise not to do exactly that. Please tell me this is the boiling point that brings the government to its knees so they can be put back in their place.

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OntarioVanMan

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This will really hit the small business arena more then personally....

Employers who have more than 50 employees and don't offer insurance will also begin to face a penalty, another penalty on business....
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Only about 6 percent of the population will actually be required to buy health insurance or face a tax under the mandate, since most people already have coverage or will get it through Medicare, according to the Urban Institute.
 

chefdennis

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Kenndy and Scalia both said the whole thing is unconstitutional..Roberts voted with the left....

OVM, you are right, small business will start dropping coverage on their employees and pay the fines.....

So..now what else can the Gov force the people to buy???
 

OntarioVanMan

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Kenndy and Scalia both said the whole thing is unconstitutional..Roberts voted with the left....

OVM, you are right, small business will start dropping coverage on their employees and pay the fines.....

So..now what else can the Gov force the people to buy???

another nail in the coffin to American businesses....America is getting to be a hostile country to set up a business....high corporate taxes and this....gee whiz....so much for new jobs...
 

jimby82

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Kenndy and Scalia both said the whole thing is unconstitutional..Roberts voted with the left....

OVM, you are right, small business will start dropping coverage on their employees and pay the fines.....

So..now what else can the Gov force the people to buy???

According to this ruling, anything as long as it is a "tax". You know things like sugar, stamps and tea, I guess, if they wanted to impose such "taxes".
 

jujubeans

OVM Project Manager
what I heard was that if you didn't pay the penalty and didn't buy insurance, they couldn't penalize you for not paying the penalty..Also..If the states don't want to go along with the medicaid changes, the feds can't take away what they already have in medicaid..
 

paullud

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OVM, you are right, small business will start dropping coverage on their employees and pay the fines.....

That is one of the big issues I see coming up, all these low class and a large portion of middle class employers will just drop their coverage and pay the fine. Then all those workers end up on Medicare or Medicaid which of course will tell the doctors and hospitals that they will only get paid X% of their charges. This will force hospitals to cut back on wages, employees, and worse yet qualified employees. The hospitals and doctors will also have higher markups for individuals than they already do to help make up for the loss of income.

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xiggi

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LOL...yeah right....how is Romneycare doing in Mass?.....

Romney care is old news and was done on the state level. To use it as an excuse for ocare is a joke. You can laugh but sorry to say it is the only chance we have at getting rid of obamacare. One of two people are gonna be our next president I know where my vote is going.

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OntarioVanMan

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Romney care is old news and was done on the state level. To use it as an excuse for ocare is a joke. You can laugh but sorry to say it is the only chance we have at getting rid of obamacare. One of two people are gonna be our next president I know where my vote is going.

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as I said in #13.....

IF he wins.....we'll see if he flip flops...
 

jujubeans

OVM Project Manager
Romney care is old news and was done on the state level. To use it as an excuse for ocare is a joke. You can laugh but sorry to say it is the only chance we have at getting rid of obamacare. One of two people are gonna be our next president I know where my vote is going.

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I'm betting it'll be going where mine is going too!
 

OntarioVanMan

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I'm betting it'll be going where mine is going too!

If could vote, Romney would be my choice by default...LOL....Obama has literally done nothing....this country has been at a stand still...if not a step backwards....At least with the Bushes the country was in neutral, Obama put it into reverse
 

chefdennis

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By the sc saying that the mandate is a tax, that takes the "Commerce Clause" out of the arguement...if the laft had said this was a tax, it never would have passed....if the right in congress doesnt open this back up and gut it and or overhaul it, i will work with and donate money the the Libratarian Party to get these *******s out of office....
 
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jimby82

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I think in the long run this will hurt Obama's reelection campaign more than it will help. Charges up the opposition and gives the Republicans ammunition. Country is still in deep trouble either who wins.
 
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