Steering wheel jumpy from new brakes?

zorry

Veteran Expediter
Curious, cost of drums w/o labor.
And did you discuss the need for those centering pins.
My steers have been on and off 4 times in the last week. We never discussed the need for the sleeves.
Possibly they are needed after there is wear in wheel and hub.
 

jjoerger

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
US Army
Drums were $110 each.
We have a Hendrickson front axle and according to the shop centering pins are not needed on our configuration.
 

RETIDEPXE

Veteran Expediter
Glad the new drums solved your problem. You did not mention if you had the bounce before new linings installed. If not warped before the new linings, why would they be after? Note that drums have there own hub pilot tabs and if not seated when tightening the first lug nut, one risks warping the drum.

Wheel centering; The tru bal sleeves are easy enough to install, I put them on my drives a couple weeks ago. The guy at tru balance will answer the phone at odd hours and is knowledgeable regarding different brake drums (you have to have your drum part number available when calling, your parts man can give this to u with your vin). I installed the bud type lug nuts (3 each wheel) on the steers some time ago, bot these at Valley Tire Ctr, Belle Vernon, PA, $106 installed. With hub pilot steers, take a business card and slip between the hub pilot tabs and the wheel and you will see some ears have gaps and some don't. Assuming you did not run your steer off a 9" curb pulling into Wally World thereby bending the wheel, bud lug nuts or tru bal sleeves will help. Without them, I think it was Michelin, came out with instructions on how to center a hub pilot wheel, basically suggesting to snug up 12:00 position nut, rotate tire 180 degrees, snug up the new 12:00 nut, then tighten all. Not a perfect science but gives you an idea what they think of hub pilot centering. Also make sure tire beads are seated correctly by checking the beauty line to rim distance. Anything off more then 2/32nds can cause a problem. It may not be evident at first, but over time it can cause a tire to wear out of round.

Balancing; I have heard equal tends to cake up from the moisture in the air we put in our tires. Something else I have not tried but sounds good are counter act balance beads, little glass beads that go inside the tire, and said to stay put by static after they move to their optimum location. I have used centramatics with success for a good 700,000 mi.s combined with a good off truck balance.

These are my thoughts, no association with products, etc etc......
 
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jjoerger

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
US Army
There is no proper application for centramatics for our configuration. We had them installed when we first got the truck but they split open and leaked all the oil out. Not enough room between drum and wheel. The guy at centramatics had Speedco refund our money.
The truck did not shake or jump before the new shoes. I don't know why they would did it with new shoes. Just happy it's smooth now.
 

BobWolf

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
There is no proper application for centramatics for our configuration. We had them installed when we first got the truck but they split open and leaked all the oil out. Not enough room between drum and wheel. The guy at centramatics had Speedco refund our money.
The truck did not shake or jump before the new shoes. I don't know why they would did it with new shoes. Just happy it's smooth now.

If the drums were over sized and you put new shoes on the new shoes can wear off metal kinda like a lathe one good stop and warped. Were only talking a matter of a couple thousandths of an inch can make a difference in the drum being good or easily warped. Especialy if the replacements were made from a more agressive compound diferent companies have thier own formula. Try to use the brand that matches your drums and axles if you have the dough, If not new is always better
Bob Wolf
 
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