EORB Concerns

mcbride

Veteran Expediter
Charter Member
Concerns EOBR

Some of my concerns regarding the EOBR.

Privacy of Data---
Who owns the information?
Who should have access to the data?
Who should have first right to correct inaccuracies without penalty?
What are the legal implications of data collected?
How do I get access to the data?
If FedEx keeps the data how long do they keep the data?

Limitation of Technology---
Is the technological level of the EOBR able to tell exactly when a truck moves, where it moves to, how long it was moving and how fast it moved….EOBRs still have no way to tell what the duty status of a driver is when the truck is not moving.

Does the EOBR sufficiently identify the difference between off-duty and on-duty, not driving unless the driver manually enters the change of duty status?

Can the EOBR measure whether or not a driver is actually in the sleeper berth getting restorative sleep?

Even with the current GPS in use today, there are areas of coverage lapses and interference throughout the United States and Canada that limit the accuracy of identifiable locations and activities. Mountainous areas, large cities with tall buildings and units located behind certain structures confuse the GPS receivers. Transmissions by the driver can be delayed in these locations and submit inaccurate information. An EOBR must be accurate.

Another concern is regarding the calibration and/or performance standards for the EOBR and for electronic data recorders, and who would ultimately bear this responsibility. Furthermore, in the event that it is determined that the EOBR is not properly calibrated, who is responsible and who is in violation the driver or the carrier?

EOBRs are integrally synchronized to the CMV, either directly to the engine control module (ECM) or via the vehicle's electronic network (databus). Is FedEx going to guarantee no damage will come to the truck after installation? Who will pay for issues resulting from improper installations? We already had one truck's wiring catch on fire after a Qualcomm was installed at PJ's....

In addition, how will a driver use their truck as a personal conveyance vehicle and log the time as off-duty. Currently, when not under load many of us use our vehicles for personal activities such as shopping, eating, entertainment etc. Having now sat without a load for over a week, we have traveled to several locations within a 50 mile radius for various reasons….how would this activity be logged? As an independent contractor, and not company employee driving a company owned vehicle, I believe it is within our right to use our truck without FedEx monitoring our movements.

The IRS states:
The courts have considered many facts in deciding whether a worker is an independent contractor or an employee. These relevant facts fall into three main categories: behavioral control; financial control; and relationship of the parties.
http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/article/0,,id=99921,00.html

FMCSA states:
Question 26:If a driver is permitted to use a CMV for personal reasons, how must the driving time be recorded?
Guidance: When a driver is relieved from work and all responsibility for performing work, time spent traveling from a driver’s home to his/her terminal (normal work reporting location), or from a driver’s terminal to his/her home, may be considered off-duty time. Similarly, time spent traveling short distances from a driver’s en route lodgings (such as en route terminals or motels) to restaurants in the vicinity of such lodgings may be considered off-duty time. The type of conveyance used from the terminal to the driver’s home, from the driver’s home to the terminal, or to restaurants in the vicinity of en route lodgings would not alter the situation unless the vehicle is laden. A driver may not operate a laden CMV as a personal conveyance. The driver who uses a motor carrier’s CMV for transportation home, and is subsequently called by the employing carrier and is then dispatched from home, would be on-duty from the time the driver leaves home.

http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/administration/fmcsr/fmcsrruletext.aspx?chunkkey=09016334800232af
 
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sweetbillebob

Seasoned Expediter
You Stated:

EOBRs are integrally synchronized to the CMV, either directly to the engine control module (ECM) or via the vehicle's electronic network (databus). Is FedEx going to guarantee no damage will come to the truck after installation? Who will pay for issues resulting from improper installations? We already had one truck's wiring catch on fire after a Qualcomm was installed at PJ's....

Can you give more detail or how they are connected. I have also heard a story from Jerry at OOIDA from a driver who experienced a loss in power and fuel efficiency. Does anyone know how integrated Fedex's EBOR's are expected to be?
 

ATeam

Senior Member
Retired Expediter
These are legitimate and well-informed questions coming from capable and loyal contractors. I sincerely hope the questions will be seriously considered, and that the answers will be more respectful and informative than "the new rules are in place and you can take it or leave it."
 

redytrk

Veteran Expediter
Charter Member
These are legitimate and well-informed questions coming from capable and loyal contractors. I sincerely hope the questions will be seriously considered, and that the answers will be more respectful and informative than "the new rules are in place and you can take it or leave it."

Good luck on getting a official answer on any of these questions. Any response would open up questions of legal liability.
Just my opinion.
 

piper1

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
While I am no fan of PJ's, I can tell you that any concerns regarding your ECM are not going to be an issue.

The unit reads the J1939 data that the ECM sends out for scan tools, automated transmissions, ABS, traction control etc. The link is a read only link so the Qualcomm does not "send" anything back to your engine, it just reads what information it wants from all the data being broadcast.

If someone has seen a mileage drop or some other performance issue after having an EOBR installed, something else was done to the truck at the same time, perhaps a tire size correction was made in the ecm (maybe an O/O would have this mis programmed on purpose for more speed?), who knows. But simply installing the unit does not in any way affect the engine.

I'm not 100%sure about the Qualcomm, but I did a fleet with the EOBR's from PeopleNet and the connection was in inline plug that was installed at the diagnostic port (scan tool hook up place). We simply removed the factory plug from its location, installed the inline connector that had a replica plug. we then installed the replica plug where the factory one was. A simple 5 min operation.
 

ATeam

Senior Member
Retired Expediter
Good luck on getting a official answer on any of these questions. Any response would open up questions of legal liability.
Just my opinion.

The company answers questions all the time. I have asked many over the years. No one at FedEx Custom Critical has ever said they cannot respond because it would open them up to questions of legal liability. Our corporate critters of choice may wish to check with their in-house legal department before answering certain questions, but that is one of the reasons why they have a legal department, so they can provide information and answer questions without opening themselves to questions of legal liability.
 
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